Re: WiFi ADSL Modem Router thingy as a Router for a Cable Modem?
- From: "pmj" <post@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 07:59:55 GMT
"ray" <datasmog@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> pmj <post@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
<snip>
>> I wondered if anybody in here might be able to Help?...
>>
>> I've Set up quite a few Systems for people who have an ADSL Broadband
>> Internet Connection, using a normal, standard BT ADSL-Enabled Phone
>> Line & they use a WiFi ADSL Modem Router thingy - such as one of the
>> Belkin ones or DLink, 3Com, NetGear or whatever, to get the Internet
>> Connection to the other computers...
>>
>> I assume that the *Router* part of them can be used as a ordinary
>> Router - WiFi or Ethernet - but with a *Cable* Modem, as the Internet
>> Connection, rather than using the built-in ADSL Modem part for the
>> Internet Connection.
>>
>> Am I right in that assumption?
<snip>
> I speak here from my own experience with the Belkin kit I use.
>
> The WAP without ADSL router has one ethernet port which connects to
> the
> ADSL router. There are no other connections apart from power.
> The WAP with ADSL router built in has 4 ethernet ports plus the
> telephone line out.
> Now I have no idea if one of those 4 ports could be used to connect
> to your cable box, I see no reason why not.
I thought (seem to remember) that they (the ADSL Modem Router things)
had an extra Ethernet Port, which could be used for an "Input", so to
speak? (from the cable Modem), but I may be remebering wrong - I haven't
got one here at the mo.
> But what I do not know is if it will feed anything to and from the box
> as it's designed to feed that signal to and from the built in router.
Hmmm...
I'm not sure I understand your terminology there...
Surely it *is* a Router & the Signal that it's feeding around is from
the built-in ADSL *Modem* in it?
> My guess is it will see the cable modem as just another computer
> on the network complete with ip address, but will it share the
> internet connection?
& that's what I'm not sure about!
:-)
> I don't think this is the right place for you to be asking this
> question.
Well, maybe not, but I know quite a few people in here do have those
WiFi ADSL Modem Router things.
> And I'm not about to start pulling my network apart to run any tests
> :-)
OK.
:-(
> Save money, buy a cheap WAP. In the long term this stuff will only
> get cheaper anyway.
Yep, but I may well want to also use it with an ADSL Connection,
so I don't want thousands of separate Boxes all over the place.
& they (the Routers with the built-in ADSL Modem) are cheap enough
(or not much more expensive, now, than the Routers), to be able to use
one (if it works) as just a (WiFi) Router.
> BTW just to get the terminology correct
> 1. ADSL modem is not a modem it's a router.
It's a Router *&* an ADSL Modem (both in the same box), surely?
In other words, it's a Router with a built-in ADSL Modem (or an ADSL
Modem with a built-in Router)
>... Only the cheap and nasty USB jobs ISP's give away can be
> called modems.
Nope.
The *Modem* bit refers to the ADSL (Phone) Line Connection stuff,
whether or not (& how) it's Connected - USB, Ethernet, PCI or whatever
doesn't matter - & the Router bit refers to the capability to Route
the resultant Signal via either (or both) Ethernet & WiFi to other PCs.
> 2. The WiFi 'thingy' is a Wireless Access Point not a router.
The WiFi "thingy" in my PC can act as a Router or as a "Client" sort
of thing.
It can act as a WAP (Infrastructure Mode) for other stuff to Connect
to it (& share the Cable Modem Connection that the PC has) or it can
act in an Ad-Hoc Mode (& thus Connect *to* something else & get its
Internet Connection from that).
Yes, all the different Terminology can get a bit confuzzling -
& I've found that a lot of the things that can be done with stuff like
that aren't discovered until you try it!
:-)
For example at the moment, this PC is connected to the Internet Via
its (built-in) WiFi thingy, which is getting its (Radio) Signal from
a Buffalo WLA2-G54C "Wireless Bridge" Access Point", that has the Cable
Modem Plugged into it, using the Ethernet RJ45 thing.
& I have used the Cable Modem (plugged into the PC) & the WiFi thingy
in the PC to then Send the Signal out to other WiFi things, such as a
laptop using a WiFi Card (or that Buffalo thing).
So it seems that there's a lot of scope for all that sort of stuff.
It may yet be worth my while nipping up to PCWorld & getting one to try?
So long as I tell them what I want to do with it, I should be able to
take it back, if it doesn't do it sometimes they even take stuff back,
just if you change your mind!
:-)
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pmj
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