Re: Goth Weekend Photos (Originally Taken For The Whitby Gazette & Sexy Sunday Website)


"H Duffy" <hester_duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "whisky-dave" <whisky-dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "H Duffy" <hester_duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> She didn't give a fake email address. She asked for a digital copy,
>>> which she has now received.
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>> Aftere accusing PeeBee of not sending anyhting pity she sent him the
>> wrong email address, but I guess you've decided that's his fault but is
>> that
>> an ethical or legal judgement.
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> She made a mistake, and has admitted it and apologised for it.
> What's your point?
That the ethics in this weren't broken as you implied.


>>> No-one, at any point, apart from you, has suggested that any
>>> phtographer, or anyone else, should provide free hard copies to anyone.
>> And if they don't provided free hard copies to those that want/request
>> copies
>> of even their own pictures that they posed for, what are they to do.
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> What do you mean, "what are they to do"? This isn't a difficult question,
> Dave. If they're putting photos on the web, the making a digital copy
> available to those in the photos is easy. Providing hard copies is
> entirely unnecessary, and no-one apart from you has an issue with this.
Are you saying that those that don't have regular internet acces should be
denied
prints of themselves, or that they are not worhty enough to have such prints
in they olde stylee Goth albums that are cover in fake dust and cobwebs.



>>> It doesn't cost anything to make that specific digital copy available.
>> Yes it does, it takes time and effort.
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> No it doesn't; if the images are online already,
Which takes time and effiort.

>anyone who wants one can download one, wiht no effort or time cost to the
>photographer.
It cost the photographer to put them up the same as it costs a DJ
to aquire music.


>>> And as I've already explainewd several times, if they weren't already
>>> being made available digitally, there wouldbn't actually be an issue in
>>> the first place.
>> So how would a person acuire and image that's not been made available ?
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> They wouldn't. And it wouldn't be an issue, because the people in question
> wouldn't be asking for a copy if they photos weren't online anyway.

Why wouldn't they I know one at least that asked someone taking
a photo of them at whitby asked for a hard copy why should they
be denied that request by default.


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>>>In other words, if he doesn't want to pay to make them publically
>>>available, he doesn't have to, and no-one will complain about that.
>> Those that request copies or to see what he actually took might complain
>> at not being able to see what he took, especially if they can't remember
>> the
>> incident taking place, but he has the right not to show them of course,
>> but I wouldn't call that ethical although you probably would.
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> But if the photos weren't being made available online in the first place,
> no-one would have been requesting images, would they?
What of those that asked when they posed. Some people do like themselves
in photos especially when dressed up for events such as WGW
itn has something to do with goths and vanity I believe although perhaps
you haven't experienced this trait in the goth subculture.

>>> And indeed it has *** all to do with you./ And yet you're still
>>> discussing it. Do you somehow have more of a right to express your
>>> opinion about it than I do?
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>> No,
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> Then stop with the ridiculous newbie mewling about how I'm trying to stop
> people from doing things, Dave.
> I'm _discussing_ it. I'm expressing my opinion, just as you are.

Your opinion my be expressed I'll allow that but what I don't
like is your tone and the statements you make that are incorrect
and you don't realsie it, due to you self interests and the belief that you
can't be wrong because of yuor belief it reminds me too much of
religious leaders telling me what is right and wrong.
You may believe what you wish but don't spread your ms-guided
ideas as the truth.



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