Re: Theaving Goths


"Matthew North" <alllivingfear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Y'know, I'm really not sure that's true at all. Most of the bands from
>> Goth past which are no longer around are no longer around because they
>> grew up and settled down or moved on,
>
> And realised that being in a goth band doesnt pay the morgage, and Time
> usually doesnt allow for a job and a band, as i Said if many bands made a
> living out of gigging and CD sales then they would probaby still be
> around.

Well, possibly, but gigging usually _costs_ money anyway. Thing is, some
bands _do_ manage to make a living, but they tend to be mainstream ones; a
band which only appeals to a small section of the market isn't going to make
much money, and that has nothign to do with file-sharing.

> , but is that
>> actually because of file-sharing? I doubt it.
>
> I didnt say that I said that file sharing reduces what chance bands have
> NOW of selling product.

But does it, actually? The figures don't seem to support this theory.

>> but they did that with cassette tapes too (remember "C30 C60 C90"?),
>
> Making mix tapes and sharing amoung a few people is that a few people,
> where as someone could upload a whole album ro savefile or rapidshard and
> 100s can download it instantally and the redistribute it and unlike
> cassette tapes it doesnt take any efford to move it around with no loss in
> quality, unkile the copying and re copying of cassettes.

Yes, but you're missing my point; when it became easy to record music at
home, there was a panic and people said it would ruin the industry. Instead,
the industry adapted and found ways of using the new technology. Now,
filesharing does allow people to share music for free, but it also allows
musos to reproduce and distribute music very cheaply. If people use it to
their advantage, there's no reason why it should fulfill all the tales of
terror, any more than cassettes did.

> and with video recorders, and neither of those did any harm. And it
>> does seem to be the case that when you look at the actual statistics,
>> they suggest that file-sharing _doesn't_ harm record sales, and may even
>> boost them.
>
> Why then did a single that sold 20,000 singles make it to Number one in
> 2004, and 'a band i know' sold the same amount of records for 1 single in
> 1989 and only skirt round the edge of the top 40?

Singles sales have been dropping for years, and that is not caused by
file-sharing (as we know for certain, because they were dropping long before
file-sharing became an issue).

>
>> Personally, I think the reason there are few big goth bands is because
>> Goth music is currently unfashionable.
>
> Its ALWAYS been unfashonable, well since the late 80s.

Right. And there haven't really been any big goth bands since the late 80's,
have there?
(I may be wrong there, what with not being terribly up on goth music and all
that...)

H


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