Re: note to uk.people.gothic readers


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> "H Duffy" <Hester_Duffy_nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> The evidence, as far as I'm aware, suggests that a lot of them settled in
>> the North of England too; an ex of mine did his PhD on exactly that.
>> There's a lack of documentary evidence, naturally, but there's a fair
>> amount of evidence hidden in artifacts and in place names.
>
> After a couple of centuries living there, that's to be expected, but it's
> no proof that many stayed after their defeat. Dublin is a Viking city, but
> most left after they were routed. Granted, their Norman cousins came later
> and they did stay.

I guess I kind of figure that after that "couple of centuries", there's no
longer a clear line between Vikings and Non-Vikings. Indeed, didn't the Beeb
do a thing recently where they did blood tests across the country to try and
find the biggest concentrations of surviving Viking blood?

>> Well, yes, but I believe it's not entirely clear whether the "romanised
>> locals" were just that, or rather localised Romans. Certainly it wasn't
>> uncommon for Romans over here to marry local girls.
>>
> Except that many of the "Romans" were not from Rome - all conquered
> peoples became Romans and it's more likely that those who stayed behind
> were the Britons' Gaulish cousins (and there had been constant
> cross-migration from Gaul to Britain for centuries - the Bretons are
> Britons, not Gauls).

Yep, indeed; the term "Roman" covers such a wide swathe, so the popular
image of a bunch of Italians coming over, ruling for a bit without actually
interacting with the locals, and then neatly packing up and going "home",
wholesale, is unrealistic.

H


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