Re: Fish don't have ethical feet it doesn't mean they can't move- was Re: Ethical feet


"whisky-dave" <whisky-dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "H Duffy" <Hester_Duffy_nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Documented by whom? Tested by whom? Retested by whom?
> Those that no what they are doing rather than those quoting things that
> just aren't true.

Such as, for example? The BBC? Academic biologists? Fishermen? Please be
specific, rather than just giving vague descriptions.

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>> And what _sort_ of evidence? If it were clearly documented, tested and
>> retested and discussed, that fish who have suffered an injury will tend
>> to press the injury site up against something, would that constitute
>> proof that they feel pain?
> No it would not by itself.
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>> If it were shown, documented, tested and retested, that their heart-rates
>> rise in response to injury,
> Heart rates rise when they are stressed ,being stressed is
> not the same as feeling pain.

OK, so what sort of evidence _would_ you accept?

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>>would you accept that as evidence that they feel pain?
>> Please be specific here.
>
> NO, is that specific enough ?

No; I want to know specifically what sort of evidence you _would_ accept.

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