Re: Fish don't have ethical feet it doesn't mean they can't move- was Re: Ethical feet

From: "H Duffy" <Hester_Duffy_nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:33:52 +0100

"whisky-dave" <whisky-dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "H Duffy" <Hester_Duffy_nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> *heh* So basically, what you're saying is that there isn't actually any
>> sort of evidence whatsoever that you would accept as proving that fish
>> can feel pain?
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> No, it's the fact that I require proper evidence rather than just rhetoric
> from an animal lover.

What would you call "proper evidence"?

H

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Re: Fish dont have ethical feet it doesnt mean they cant move- was Re: Ethical feet
... But _conscious_ awareness of pain is a separate issue. ... So tell me if a fish has no conscious awareness of pain, ... That's the differnce between evidence and proof do you not understand ... > the complex bits of brain needed to grasp that, ...
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... "The research reviewed does not demonstrate that fish have a conscious ... > *heh* No, Dave, not me. ... So what sort of pain are you insisting fish feel? ... >> bound in leather siting on a shelf next to you, but evidence in the real ...
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... You really need to lay off the crack a bit Dave; ... it doesn't make sense to discuss whether or not fish have ... _conscious_ awareness of pain unless we can first decide whether we consider ... > bound in leather siting on a shelf next to you, but evidence in the real ...
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... >>> I'm not calling you names, Dave. ... > about experiments looking at pain, ... > Well, the fish stopped eating, so clearly they werne't looking for food, ... As evidence of the brains rainbow trout has. ...
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... > Because you keep insisting that fish feel pain ... I keep pointing out that the evidence very very strongly suggests that they ... feel pain, yes. ... humans do,a nd I have specifically said that they probably don't feel pain ...
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