Re: Benefits

mr j wrote:
Martin wrote:
<snip> Ummm....you are talking about more than just him. Perhaps
several of us on
the newsgroup. And me.

Martin, sorry but I vehemently deny that I am making reference to
persons on this NG, indeed that remark would constitute a flame to
which I shall not be drawn. We all have opinions and ours clearly
differ. I was merely making a point of one man which I saw and my fear
of others like him..

Sorry, thought you meant people claiming benefits like him, able to do as
much as him, and as much upper body strength as he will have.
If he is claiming benefits, he'll be on the same ones as some on here. For
probably some of the same reasons, if not all the same reasons.


Furthermore, as two of my uncles died of cancer I
know too well the issue of suffering in silence while putting on a
brave face.

Sorry about your uncles, its always hard on the families.
I wouldn't know about suffering in silence. I'm exactly as active as I can
be, one thing I refuse to be is stuck in the house all the time.

I am aware that disabled people do not have *genuine* or
*fraud* stamped on their foreheads.

Though perhaps thats a good idea. If there was some definitive test of
course.
Even appeals process isn't foolproof.


This Govt has cleverly put ideas
into peoples minds regarding disability

Most ideas have existed for many years. The earliest government attempt I
can recall offhand to do something about what people thought of disability
is some legislation in 1944.
And ongoing since then.


along with the BBC's timely
showing of their benefit cheat series and from your comment:
"Ummm....you are talking about more than just him. Perhaps several of
us on the newsgroup. And me." it would seem that possible paranoia
has already set in.

Well you did mention 'people like him'. They spoonfeed over 2 million of us,
many of whom also claim other benefits in addition to incapacity.
All I'm saying is don't judge people based on a very short period of time
and without full details of their exact condition.

Every time there is a crackdown on benefit cheats, its not just the cheaters
who get caught.
I've seen several programmes about benefit cheats in the last 16 years, they
tend to be much the same. Someone claims benefit but is seen doing
something.
Not totally incompatable, though often some issues.


Problem here is that i'm on the side of the
disabled, regardless of how I whittle on.
mr J

Then be prepared to give the benefit of the doubt.
Just because you feel he could work doesn't mean he could actually work. And
just because he can lift a wheelchair and walk to the car door doesn't
invalidate any award of DLA.

Martin <><


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