Re: Sorry again.

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In article <0001aafd$0$4181$c3e8da3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Cryptomaniac says...

Spacker wrote:
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Spacker wrote:
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Spacker wrote:
Sorry for being a dickhead here.
I'm just an attention seeking loser with no life
that spends my entire day waiting for someone to
post a message that I can reply to.

If it annoys you just killfile anyone with the name
Spacker or my glovepuppets Fran and Cryptomaniac.


Hmm...a "glovepuppet" accusing a genuine poster of
being a "glovepuppet". Irony overload....

Spacker appears to be a deeply troubled person.
Having reading through some of his posts here it is
clear that he is highly selective in his use of
evidence to support his arguments and he ignores
anything that doesn't support his point of view. He
presents wild speculations as though they are facts.
He frequently makes accusations against others based
on nothing more than speculation and fantasy. He
repeats himself over and over again (e.g. the BNP
stuff) and tries to use "guilt by association" to
attack anyone who criticises this behaviour. He
appears to have little interest in ebay or anything
else except attacking those who he regards as
"enemies".

As far as I can work out he doesn't even have an
ebay account - I think he may have had one at some
previous time but it might have been closed down by
ebay because he broke the rules. If this is true
(note the "if", I am speculating here) it doesn't
seem to prevent him from trying to take the moral
high ground when attacking others for breaking
rules. Of course we will never know for sure about
Spacker's relationship with ebay or anything else
because the last thing he wants is clarity about
anything. One facts have been established,
supported by good evidence, then his options for
distortion, dissembling, selective use of evidence
and fabrication become much reduced. In a
worst-case scenario of this kind he might actually
have to face up to some deeply unpleasant aspects
of his character, which is something he would
probably want to avoid at all costs.

The tragedy for Spacker is that he can't let go.
Whilst his behaviour on this newsgroup may be very
annoying for some readers, they can console
themselves with the knowledge that they can stop
reading one of his posts and move on to something
more worthwhile. Spacker, on the other hand, has to
live with the stuff in his head for all his waking
hours. His behaviour here is an attempt to offload
some of the anger, bitterness and disappointment
that he constantly lives with. However, it only
provides temporary relief so he has to keep
returning for more. Living the kind of existence
that Spacker has to endure is punishment enough for
his transgressions. From time to time it may be
necessary to counter some of his lies and
distortions but there is no need to get too angry
with him - he already appears to be living in his
own personal hell.

You seem to have forgot you are supposed to be new
here.

New to posting, not reading. Anyway, it wouldn't take
long for anyone to arrive at similar conclusions about
your problems after reading a few of your posts.

Why not let it all the negativity go and try being
constructive for a change? That would be a win-win
situation. You have a choice you know, but like many
addicts I suspect that you don't think you could make
it without your regular "fix" - and you won't risk
trying.

Is this the negativity?

SNIP!

Nice try but it won't work. I think you were hoping
that I would criticise your repeated posting of this
stuff so that you could then label me as a BNP
sympathiser, using your habitual "guilt by
association", fantasy and fabrication of "evidence"
approach. Assuming that this analysis is correct then
your posting of it here, in this thread, would seem to
be primarily a result of your negative emotions. As
usual, your response to any kind of criticism is to try
to find a way to attack the person making the criticism
rather than considering what they have said about you.

If you could stop the knee-jerk reacting and do a bit of
reflecting instead you might realise how much damage you
are doing to yourself. Why not let it all the negativity
go and try being constructive for a change? That would
be a win-win situation.

You don't think exposing racists is constructive?

If that was your primary intention then it might be.
However, your interest in "exposing racists" seems to be
limited to attacking a few people who have disagreed with
you in the past in this newsgroup.

If you really had an interest in exposing racists you
would be devoting your energies to supporting
organisations such as the "Campaign against Racism and
Fascism" or "Searchlight" instead of spamming an ebay
consumer newsgroup. Alternatively you could be posting in
some of the 25+ uk politics newsgroups and/or in many of
the other newgroups where the BNP and the like are
regularly posting racist stuff. In fact your constant
repetition of the same stuff here is counter-productive
in terms of garnering support for anti-racism. The way
you are using the "exposing racists" approach as a way of
bolstering your position in an ebay consumer newsgroup is
trivialising a really important issue.

http://www.news.astraweb.com/aup.html


Astraweb supports free speech and is not a racist supporting
organisation. Also, this is not a white power group, so
opposing racist views in here is perfectly acceptable.

Yeah but it doesn't support lies, libel or spamming so I
think you could be in trouble. As for the racism - again,
you are the one who is racially obsessed, you are the one
who seems to want to introduce it into every thread. You
aren't working undercover for the BNP are you? Perhaps its
a really clever BNP strategy - introduce some spurious
refernce to racism into every thread until people are sick
of the issue, then real racism is likely to go unopposed.

There has been no lies, libel or spamming, merely the
reporting of truth that can be easily verified using the
links provided.

The repeated posting of the same material constitutes spamming.
"Usenet convention defines spamming as excessive multiple
posting, that is, the repeated posting of a message (or
substantially similar messages)".

There are numerous examples in your posts of your speculations
and fabrications being used to libel people. Simply
presenting the same stuff over and over again, even if some of
it is true, doesn't protect you from the consequences of your
blatant mendacity in other posts. Your obsession with race is
no defense, and it just makes you look like a closet racist.

How can linking to posts that people have made be considered
spculation and fabrication? Are you suggesting the posts in
question were not made by the people whose names are associated
with them in the relevant Google archives?

No, the stuff you keep posting over and over again is simply
spam.

Do you mean my sig? They are repetitive by nature, and allowed by
the group charter.

However you try to describe it, its spam.

So everyone who uses a sig should be reported for spam? That's
useful to know, thanks.


Whatever
useful purpose it may have served is in the past. It has now
lost all meaning due to its endless repetition and therefore it
has become counter productive because it is tending to make
people switch off to the issue of racism. It also looks very
much like you trot it out every time you have been caught out in
some new fantasy, using it like some kind of magic mantra that
justifies your behaviour. You also appear to use it to try to
create "guilt by association", implying that your critic must be
motivated by racism regardless of what the real issue might be.

Then explain why a non-racist would attack someone just for saying
that racism is wrong, and why they would not attack someone that
said ethnic minorities should be murdered.

Again, you immediately resort to speculation/fabrication. There
are whole host of other reasons for people being hostile towards
you. You constantly try to bring attention to yourself by trolling
and pursuing vendettas and then you claim that anyone who opposes
this must be motivated by racism. Your primary motivations appear
to be self-promotion and the desire to seek revenge on those who
criticise any aspect of your behaviour.

I believe in calling a *** a ***, so I am aware of why someone
would be hostile towards me, especially if they themselves are
cunts.

But that doesn't explain why they are also hostile to Fran and the
others that have agreed with me on my stance towards the levels of
racism in this group. It also wouldn't explain the lack of hostility
towards the people who call for murder. Perhaps you can explain both
of these points too?


There is plenty of evidence in your other posts of your use of
speculation and fabrication.

Like what?

Well to quote just two of several within the last 24 hours.

1. Your claim that I had said that I had never posted on Usenet
before posting here - a fabrication.

No I didn't. I pointed out that you had claimed to have posted here
in the past, as some sort of response to an x-post from another
group. Is there a reason why you are pretending otherwise?

See, there you go again. Nowhere have I claimed to have posted here
prior to yesterday. However, you will never let the facts get in
the way of a lie that serves your purpose.

So was this post a forgery, and not made by you at all?
Message-ID: <00008431$0$4184$c3e8da3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

How was the forger able to get hold of the same email program you use
for posting, when it hasn't been available for download for such a
long time? And how is it that you didn't notice this forgery,
considering how few posts you have made?



2. Like your statement in the "Ebay/PayPal - Misrepresent the true
security they offer thread". i.e. "Try reading his post again
instead of just attacking him because of his foreign sounding
name." - a wild speculation about somebody's motivation for
posting but stated as though it were some kind of fact.

And yet nobody has, as yet, offered an alternative explanation for
those 3 people attacking that poster. Remember that the same 3
people have attacked me for my anti-racism stance in the recent
past.

The poster did not clearly explain the situation that he was
referring to, leading people to think he was complaining about an
off-ebay sale. He got a negative response because what he wrote was
incoherent and misleading. You tend to get negative responses
because much of what you post is incoherent and misleading.

And yet it was clear enough for me to comprehend. How strange. Perhaps
that is the reason why you people don't attack posters who say ethnic
minorities should be murdered? Do you in fact read that as meaning we
should hug them and give them flowers?


Your approach overall is the use of a typical "closed theory"
approach. People with closed theories will not accept the
possibility of any other theory to explain events.

And yet here I am asking for alternative theories. Unfortunately
nobody seems to be able to come up with one. How strange.

Anything that appears to contradict their theory
is explained away in terms of the theory itself. The only
explanation that you will ever accept for hostility towards your
behaviour here is that your critics must be motivated by support for
right-wing politics and racism.

The question is about the hostility towards Fran and the other people
who have publicly supported me over the racism issue. Hostility that
only started when they agreed with me, and had no other motivation as
far as I can see. What would cause such a reaction?

You can't accept that your use of fabrication, smears and lies used
to a might be a major factor in the negative responses that you get.
You can't accept that your incessant trolling and gratuitous attacks
on others might be a factor in the hostility towards you. You will
always resort to the use of BNP and/or racist smears even when there
is no evidence whatsoever that your critic has such sympathies. In
your world the only possible explanation for hostility towards you
is racism. However, I don't think for a moment that you REALLY
believe that all your critics are racist. It seems highly probable
that you find that racist smears are a convenient way of putting
your critics on the defensive whilst allowing you to play "holier
than thou". However, you have overplayed that hand and it isn't
working very well any more.

This seond example above also highlights your obsession with racism
and foreigners - a typical fascist-type attitude. Are you sure
that you aren't an undercover BNP supporter trying to discredit
genuine anti-racists?

If I was, would that change your attitude towards me?

Why do you want to know? Are you sounding me out with a view to
offering me BNP membership or something?

Is that something you would be interested in?

Are you on a recruiting drive? It looks very much like it. I'm not
interested, no matter how hard you try to persuade me.

--
Crypto


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