Re: Unscrupulous seller update.

Spacker wrote:
"\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Spacker wrote:
"Peter Crosland" <g6jns@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


The seller that sold me a damaged phone continues to play silly
wotsits. Paypal gave me a full refund after I returned the goods.
Now the seller has had the cheek to file an unpaid item report
against me. I have obviously contested this with eBay but wonder if
there is anything else I should do within the eBay system. I have
already reported the seller to the various authorities for breaches
of the Companies Act, VAT regulations and to trading standards. I
am tempted to sue them for the return postage. Comments please.

Peter Crosland

g6jns@xxxxxxxxxxx


If you have the seller's money back in your account, how can you
think you have paid for the item? By definition, paying for an item
involves giving the seller some money and letting them keep it. If
you paid a taxi driver for a ride home, then held a gun to their
head and took back your money, would you still say you had paid for
that ride home?

The situation is slightly different in that the taxi driver cannot
take back the taxi journey that he has provided you with...
In this case, the OP has stated that his refund was issued when he
returned the dodgy phone back to the seller...

So why is he having a fit about it? That sounds normal to me. Did he
want keep the phone and get a refund as well?

No...he just didn't want an NPB...
After all, he didn't report the guy for not shipping the goods...

I agree that by getting a refund, the buyer has effectively not paid.
But by the same logic, by recieving the phone back, the seller has
effectively not delivered the goods.

So in an ideal world, neither party would have anything to moan
about, as the transaction has simply been reversed.


Yes, but ebay still has all the fees from selling that item and
reporting it as not paid is the only way to get them back.

And like I said in my other post...This is the fault of Ebay...This whole
situation is created because Ebays systems are fundamentally
flawed....Always have been, and they're getting worse with every new policy
decision they make...
I no longer use Ebay...It's become a very unsafe, expensive and rather
unsavoury place to trade and do business lately...


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