Re: RFD: create unmoderated newsgroup uk.tech.heating

The message <43ab6530$0$255$5a6aecb4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
from andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Andrew Gabriel) contains these words:
> In article <oe-dne8qZflRyjbenZ2dnUVZ8t2dnZ2d@xxxxxxxxx>,
> "Nick Booth" <angusmcdangle@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> > I mused over the name for sometime. I'm not 100% happy with it, but it
> > seems to cover 95% of related topics ('cookers' is one which doesn't
> > seem to
> > fit in the conventional sense, although would be a welcome and
> > appropriate
> > discussion topic in the group).
> > At the end of the day, I would like to see a group containing posts
> > related
> > to the Gas/Oil and heating trade, not a group where people are discussing
> > washing machines and light bulbs, and only every 25th post may be
> > related to
> > heating, but the subject text is so vague you have to open the post.
> > Maybe
> > the inclusion of 'commercial' is the stumbling block here? Limit it to
> > 'domestic'? The odd OT commercial post would be handled I'm sure!

> 'commercial'/'domestic' is not a problem.
> The problem is that most of this discussion currently takes place
> in uk.d-i-y, and you have not said what effect you would wish your
> new group to have on that.

No reason why he should.

> Based on what you said in another posting
> this would appear to be because you have a misconception of the current
> coverage of uk.d-i-y (your analysis of what it covers was wrong).
> I would expect you to have a good understanding of the current
> situation and how you wish it to change before asking for a new
> newsgroup.

I think you have an incorrect conception of the reasons for proposing
the group. I don't know about you, but uk.d-i-y would not spring to *MY*
mind as an obvious place to ask about plumbing in my Rayburn for
instance, or asking about how to make an American riser. I'd search for
a group related to the issues of heating.

> Once in a while, someone suggests splitting uk.d-i-y into several
> component parts of which heating is one part, but such proposals
> have always failed to date (usually before even getting to the RFD).

I think there is a clear need for hiving-off such a clearly-defined
compartment of DIY, especially as many of the likely questions will not
(legally) apply to DIYers.

There's nothing to prevent anyone from crossposting to uk.d-i-y, or
posting there exclusively.

> Secondly, even supposing it was possible to have a UK heating
> newsgroup which was not DIY, where are those posts currently going?

Outside the uk.* hierarchy, doubtless.

> Just creating a group doesn't create a viable community of posters;
> they really need to exist somewhere already, and be willing to move
> across to the new newsgroup. I am not aware of any such (which is
> not to say they don't exist, but no one has pointed me to them yet).

Having searched, our server carries no group with 'heating' in its
title. IMO, that's a good enough reason for creating the group, and I
back that up by assuring you that I would have looked for such a group
in a few weeks as I'm currently mining clay-lump blocks and stuff in the
kitchen chimneybreast (and introducing a FO big oak beam to stop it
dropping into the soup) to make a large enough drift into which to
squeeze a Rayburn.

I shall also be plumbing it [1] in to the hot water tank and probably
adding some central heating...

[1] The Rayburn, not the chimneybreast.

Fast-track!

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