Re: Nobody proposing new uk newsgroups - why ?

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> >> All text as far as I'm concerned, I use lynx. Or blank. There are few
> >> web sites which are all text, most of them use graphics for at least
> >> part of the information, ones like mine which are all text apart from a
> >> few nonessential link icons get criticised for not being glitzy enough.
> >
> > I'm not into glitz, but being an artist, I suppose the graphics element
> > is important to me.

> I fire up a graphics browser occasionally, for site that actually need
> it (like Mark's photo!).

I must confess that I've never had a text-only browser, the first one I
had was Mosaic. When I get everything working on the Linux box I will
look at a text-only one - just for the sheer hell of it.

Q - do people with text-only wibbles link to similar ones much? I've
never even *SEEN* a truly text-only site. Text-only pages, yes.

> >> You're the one who's saying there's a decline with no evidence for it.
> >> I'm predicting that the number of Usenet users will stay roughly
> >> constant now for several years and then will taper off, just as FTP
> >> usage tapered off when people got their own web sites. And, just as FTP
> >> is still around, that Usenet will still be around in 20 years time but
> >> will have lost the majority of people who were only using it because
> >> there was nothing else.
> >
> > FTP usage has tapered off? Because people got their own websites? Quite
> > the reverse, I would have thought: what else do they use to put their
> > pages up and maintain them?

> FTP usage to actually download other people's stuff. Actually, most web
> sites now seem to have uploading done automatically in the browser. OK,
> the transport may be FTP (or SFTP) but that isn't an FTP user access
> (people don't say "I'm going to use SMTP to send a message to a friend",
> they say they are sending an email and don't know or care what the
> transport mechanism is).

True, but TBH, I really wouldn't know how to use a browser to FTP a file
to another location, but I could use WS_FTP to up and download stuff
with no prombles.

> Do you maintain an FTP site? Several of my domains have them, but I
> rarely see any traffic even looking at them (not that there's anything
> there in some cases; in others it's an alternate access to my web site).
> That's what I mean by "using FTP", maintaining a site accessed by other
> people using FTP the same way as people do with web sites.

No, not as such, though I do put a few things up from time to time for
people to download however they want to, and which ar not linked from
the pages.

When I get round to having broadband I might think about it. I've some
interesting music-generating programs I want to play with, and my nephew
will be going to - now *WHERE'S* that Christmas Message got to? - well,
he's been offered a place at the Birmingham Conservatoire to study
(music) composition. He's got some pro programs on a Mac, which is
cheating 'cos I can't play with them.

(Thinks) I have an all-SCSI box - I wonder if I could persuade OSX on to it?

> (Actually, I use scp to update most of my sites, it's just as fast and a
> lot more secure and easier to use...)

> > Certainly, I didn't use FTP at all until I started maintaining a
> > website. (Firm's, not mine.)

> In the early 90s there was nothing else if you wanted to download stuff.

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