Re: Nobody proposing new uk newsgroups - why ?
- From: "Tyke" <me@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:23:31 +1030
In news:slrndp9bpt.lpm.chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Chris Croughton <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxx> typed:
> On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 18:22:16 +0000 (GMT), fred
> <fredc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, in article
>> <slrndp8b2s.th5.chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> chris@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> "Chris Croughton" wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, there are a few uk.* newsgroups which are so troll-infested
>>> that they are unusable without massive filtering (uly, ul, a couple
>>> of others), but as far as I've seen they are well in the minority.
>>> The majority seem to be either healthy or down at a low use rate
>>> but not dead (they may not have many postings but the users do find
>>> them useful intermittently).
>>
>> You can add uk.local.derbyshire to your list.
>
> How do you know it isn't already included in "a couple of others"? My
> point is that it's a few, even in uk.local the vast majority don't
> seem to have the problem, which makes me wonder what it is about
> certain groups that they do have the problem to that degree. Oh, all
> groups get trolled sometimes, but I've seen many of them just shrug
> it off, put the trollers into killfiles and ignore them where some
> others seem to have a culture of encouraging the trolls. You can see
> that in unnc, the ones who just ignore the troll threads compared to
> the ones who argue and protest (and who are probably put into
> killfiles as well, at least that's what I do with people who "feed
> the trolls" persistently).
>
> Saying that all unmoderated groups will become troll-infested and
> unusable is not only defeatist but it's demonstrably incorrect. I've
> seen groups survive a massive onslaught of off-topic stuff, if the
> regular users are sensible about it. I've seen others where the users
> folded at the first troll or spam. It's a matter of how much the
> users actually want to use the group as opposed to playing with the
> troll...
>
> Chris C
I've left the post intact.
Good to see a few opposing Fred's views Chris.
I do note that Fred relates a lot of the "trolling" to ULY.
I hope that Fred has no ulterior motive - perhaps seeking to control ULY
again (funny how a lot of trolling stemmed from around that group)
There is now ULYM for Fred to play in............
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