Re: The Ross saga


"Alan Hope" <usenet.identity@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:su2ng4pbqdh7390h4re2e242kio9go9fsk@xxxxxxxxxx
michael adams goes:

"Alan Hope" <usenet.identity@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Sir Krustov goes:

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Right, so had the BBC news ignored Ross and Brand, that would have caused no
criticism what so ever.

Steve Penk just gave ross a right good verbal thrashing on sky news .

He said that he hoped he was proud of himself as a good woman lost her
job because of him - and that she carried the can for his mistake .

A fair point ? .

She was guilty as charged. It's unfair if she loses her job and Ross
doesn't, though. He was far more culpable than anyone else involved.

Only to the extent that he himself should have insisted on having that
material binned and should have been pro-active in apologising to
Sachs

I was thinking more that he instigated the whole thing.

The fact remains however that a successions of numpties in the editorial
chain must have listened to that material and okay'd it prior to
transmission.

As given Ross's performances on "They Think Its All Over" -
where allegedly most of his contributions are binned on account of profanity
there should have beem no-one anywhere in the BBC TV or radio under the
illusion that Ross is a safe pair of hands. Further, on this he was standing
in for Brands regular partner and guiding hand, and Brand regarded him as
such.

Brand seems to have been running to catch up all along. Ross started
the obscenities, and Brand had to try to make something light and
funny out of it. Ross's outburst, let's face it, was pathological. Who
talks that way to anyone, let alone a 78-year-old you don't even know?

It was certainly strange. There was more on the whole situation in the "Guardian"
today, which I only just caught up on. For all his feigned naivety, as Ian has
already pointed out, Brand's shows were all produced by his own production company
which more or less had total editorial control. Apparently this woman controller
who's just walked, was more or less besotted by Brand to the bewidermant of some
of the older hands such a Gambacinni. It appears Brand got through producers like
wildfire and was considered unmanageable by some. While this woman controller retained
final editorial oversight she seemingly didn't bother in this case.

As suspected Ross's relationship with the Beeb is tied up in contracts with
Ross's production companies - he's claimed to employ 30 staff - and the Beeb as
now constituted stand to lose money as they rented the studios to Ross for
the programmes on a weekly basis and will now have a job finding a replacemant
if any - at such short notice.

Again in the Guardian, Chris Evans, hardly a saint himself in his time at the Beeb
made some very pertinent remarks on the subject of the undue influence now being
wielded at the Beeb by star presenters. Evans was more a workaholic control freak
than anything else, IIRR.

....


There's another point though - if Ross is squeaky clean on his own show
which maybe goes out more or less live dunno - maybe he expected to be cut
as necessary on pre-recorded shows.

He's nearly 50 years old. Passing the blame onto someone who should
have been covering for him just doesn't wash.

And again if Brand hadn't cultivated a reputation as having shagged
anything in skirts under 30 years of age within a 20 mile radius of London,
Ross maybe wouldn't have jumped to that conclusion as a way of ribbing him.

I suspect he would. He appears to lack any vestige of an internal
editor.

....

That might depend on what's just gone up his nose in the toilet, of course.

Otherwise as I've never listened to any of his Radio 2 shows I simply can't comment.

Anyway a great story with just about everything in it. Including the future
of the Beeb as we know it I suppose.


michael adams

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For a moment there, poor old Wossy forgot himself and just wanted to be one
of the boys again - a 17 year old. But on a six million a year salary


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