Re: Bollocks: Call to scrap TV standby buttons to help environment

Dom Robinson <Usetheaddress@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <1heh4tp.1d8gq9m1uvjlc7N%me4@xxxxxxxxxxx>, me4@xxxxxxxxxxx says...
DVDfever Dom <google@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Why would you not want this external drive to not spin down? If it
spins down, it's not being used.

My internal hard drives don't spin down, neither did my previous
external one (the crappy Lacie 250Gb). Spinning the Seagate external
drive down has a knock-on effect on other stuff as, for example, when I
open up a picture editing program that defaults to the folder it last
used then everything freezes for a few seconds as it forces the drive
to spin back up again, sounding like a First North Western train
setting off, and that's a pain in the arse that can be avoided by
keeping it running.

<just sighs>

No answer, in other words?

If you can't shut your PCs down without them fraking up, I'd say you got
major issues!

I can shut them down. It's not the PC that's got an issue over that.

No. Both my 'puters are Macs, so I don't have to worry about that sort
of ***.

I'm not an Apple fan. Macs, Ipods - always a case of style over
substance.

Interesting. Don't suppose you'd be interested in expanding on that,
would you, just as a matter of interest? Call it morbid facination. ;)

It's something Apple have done for years with this kind of thing. Do a google
for my comparison in this group with my Creative Zen 60Gb MP3 player and the
40Gb Ipod which came out around the same time.

The 60Gb Creative had more capacity, a much longer battery life and cost less
than the 40Gb Ipod, but if the latter's marketed as 'cool' and the former
isn't marketed a great deal then kids buy the latter. Creative didn't help
themselves in that respect but it doesn't change the facts.

Well, I was thinking more about your aversion to Macs actually. For my
needs, I find the pluses outweigh the negatives, and those pluses are
worth paying for. But always interesting to hear the views from others
of multiple platform experience, especially if their preferences are
weighted the other way; Are their opinions valid points for their
particular needs, or assumed issues based on long standing hearsay and
myth?

You just don't get it, do you? In the grand scheme of things, my meagre
contribution is inconsequential, but several billion contributions
*could* be consequential. I can't see the future, no more than you can,
and maybe it won't make much of a difference. But what if it would?

It wouldn't because the majority of people DON'T keep their PC running
24/7 but then they may be the kind of people who are running a powerful
car that might *** up the environment more than my average car.

So, overall, we're all doing our meagre bit as well as fucking it up.

Not only in terms of potential environmental concerns, but also
depleting natural resources faster than future generations can find
viable replacements. So the way I look it is, just in case, maybe our
generation should moderate ourselves, and each do our bit. As opposed
to arrogantly, lazily, and selfishly not giving a ***.

When it comes to the last sentence, I'm the first to admit that on
environmental issues that that applies to me. I really don't care.
Mankind accounts for 3% of global warming, but even if it accounted for
100% there's several billion of us on the planet so any difference one
person could make would be just as negligible.

Hence, while there are many things I campaign for and again, on this
issue, there's no need to care.

I see.

No answer to that either?

What would be the point? Any further argument for doing "the right
thing", would mean nothing to anyone with such a short sighted, selfish,
couldn't care less attitude as you've demonstrated. With that kind of
mindset, what would be the point of continuing to beat my head against
such a brick wall?

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