Re: OT: Morrisons
- From: "Mugwump" <x@xxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:16:30 GMT
Norman Wells goes:
>In article <togum1lr2vpjhj27g9v03d675bb7384n0l@xxxxxxx>, Lee@DVDDebate
><lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
>>On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 08:53:42 +0000, Norman Wells <norman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>wrote:
>>>>> So, 82% of a child's meals are not
>>>>>eaten at school but at home. Tell me please how adjusting just 18%
of
>>>>>total meals to some unscientific 'better nutrition' regime, costing
60p
>>>>>rather than 37p, is going to change anything.
>>>>Well, if you really are so dense as to need your own figures
>>>>explaining to you, even at that level it would mean that 18 percent
of
>>>>their meals would be more nutritious.
>>>In what way are they 'more nutritious'? Most people during the
second
>>>world war would say that they were actually less nutritious and
poorer
>>>food, as the new meals contain fewer calories. Only one criterion, I
>>>know, but what criteria are you using to judge nutrition?
>>They contain more nutritious ingredients, more vitamins and closer to
>>the RDA of certain foodstuffs than most kids would eat if they didn't
>>have a decent school meal. How someone can be so dim witted as to see
>>this as a bad thing boggles the mind.
>Then you need to pay closer attention.
>We all need a certain amount of vitamins in our diet, since these are
>substances that the body is unable to manufacture. The amount we
>require of each vitamin is remarkably low, and it's virtually
impossible
>for anyone eating enough food to survive not to consume sufficient of
>each vitamin. If by some chance you don't consume enough, you suffer
>from well-defined vitamin deficiency diseases, including night
blindness
>(vitamin A deficiency), beri-beri (B), scurvy (C), rickets (D) and
>pellagra (P). Tell me when you last came across anyone suffering from
>any of those conditions. If you can't, tell us why that is if the diet
>of most kids is really so bad.
There's more to nutrition that vitamins, surprise surprise.
>Provided you consume sufficient of each of the vitamins to avoid the
>associated vitamin deficiency diseases, any excess, which can do you
>actual harm, is usually just excreted. It is a waste, and possibly
>dangerous, therefore to try to boost your vitamin intake either by
>altering the food you eat or by means of supplements. Those that tell
>you otherwise are wrong, and are usually charlatans trying to make
money
>out of you.
This is on the whole true.
>As regards the other foodstuffs you say should be boosted to nearer the
>RDA, do please let us know what they are, what conditions you think
they
>prevent, and just how prevalent in society those conditions are.
The problem with the British diet tends to be hyper- rather than
hypo-. Too much of certain things rather than too little. So, too much
salt, refined sugars, saturated fats etc. A school lunch that consists
of a bag of crisps and a fizzy drink gathers all those problems into
one handy place. Jamie Oliver comes along and blasts that problem into
infinity.
All right, I exaggerate. He puts a decent lunch in the place
previously occupied by an indecent lunch. I call that a result.
>>I've never had a lot of time for Oliver, always thought he was some
>>sort of mockney fool, but I know what it was like to be poor and have
>>beans on toast for 'tea' every night. Anyone who cares enough to want
>>to do something to help people like that is alright in my book.
>So, what deficiency diseases did you suffer as a result of all those
>beans on toast? Most would consider they actually make a good,
healthy,
>nutritious meal.
Nobody would think that. Not when eaten on a regular basis. Tinned
beans are full of sugar. Sliced bread is bereft of any nutritional
value. You'd be better off eating the plate, which is high in
potassium.
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