Re: OT: Ethernet connection?
- From: Stephen <stephenbowden@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:15:13 +0000
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:32:49 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6JPG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In message <dnvsh6Ex43vJFwWt@xxxxxxxxxx>, Jenny M Benson
<nemonews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
In message <oNRX3cU6b1vJFwTP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "J. P. Gilliver
(John)" <G6JPG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
I don't think it would ever have occurred to me to make a verb out of
route anyway
I'm surprised. I would have thought it not all unusual to say, or hear
someone else say, something like "we were routed via X" or "we were
re-routed via Y" in connection particularly with rail or air travel.
I suppose it's common now. But I think it's a late-20th-century coinage:
"sent" or "(re)directed" would perhaps have been used earlier.
Late 19th Century, apparently - your brother's book has several
citations from the 1890s in the context of trains and post.
Oddly enough, I was discussing the pronunciation with my brother last
night (he having just bought one of the cheap wireless routers at
morgancomputers, on my suggestion [he's about to get a new PC]), and he
reminded me of the third meaning of the word - as well as the journey
and the woodworking, there's also the defeat-and-drive-away-in-tatters
meaning (which we'd both also spell without the e, and pronounce to
rhyme with "out").
Oh, hello Peter, I didn't see you being referred to there.
If you're going for that spelling, then there are a few other
(independent) meanings:
Snore (from the Old English "hrutan") - as used by Chaucer in The
Reeve's Tale: His wyf bar him a burdon a ful strong, Men myghte hir
rowtyng heere two furlong.
Roar (from the Old Norse "rjóta") - as used by Chaucer in Troylus: The
sterne wind so loude gan to route That no wight other noyse mighte
here.
Bellow (mainly of cattle; from the Old Norse "rauta") - as used by Sir
W Scott in The Monastery: To see poor Grizzie and Crumbie+turning back
their necks to the byre, and routing.
Belch (from the Old French "router") - as used by Langland in Piers
Ploughman: He... roxed and rored, and routte atte laste.
Direct hounds by shouting at them (from the Old French "route") - as
used in the Master of Game manuscript of c1410: He shall se the hert
passe byfore hym and shall halowe and route myghtlich.
Stir vigorously (from "hrutan" again, but more obscurely) - as used in
the 1440 translation of Palladius's treatise on Husbandry: Aftir dayes
iij they goth therto, And myghtyly they route [L. commovent] hit to
and fro.
Move about (possibly from "router" again, but maybe not) - as used by
Chaucer (again) in The Man of Law's Tale: In al that lond no cristen
dorste route; Alle cristen folk been fled fro that contree.
(And that ignores the alternative spelling of what pigs do in the
soil, and of extirpation (with "out").
--
Stephen
Blancmange is a dish best served cold.
.
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