Re: My friends with btinternet addresses . . .

Colin Blackburn wrote:
a l l y wrote:
"the Omrud" <usenet.omrud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:KCqvl.7710$Lc7.2790@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
the Omrud wrote:
a l l y wrote:
....are not receiving the emails I send them. Has any otherrat had this problem? I use Pipex, but a friend who uses a completely different isp is having the same problem. It can take anything from 4 hours to 3 days before the failure message bounces back, which is really annoying, as you don't know at once that your message hasn't got through. We're beginning to think the problem is at the btinternet end, rather than ours. Any tecchierats out there who've heard of something going on deep in the bowels of btintenet/Yahoo! Towers?
This is a year old, but it looks rather like the same problem you are having:
http://www.chromosphere.co.uk/2008/02/19/btyahoo-slow-email/

Which doesn't give us any answer on how to fix your problem if you're not running your own mail servers, other than to move to another ISP. If this is, indeed, the problem.
And here:
http://www.ahfx.net/weblog.php?article=107

Looks like they're still doing it.

<sigh> I can't tell all my btinternet friends - let alone customers! - to move to another isp! This is ridiculous. Have I been "greylisted" for some reason? It means it's back to using the phone to contact a few of my friends, or alternatively, I can email another friend, as a go-between - someone whose messages seem to be accepted by btinternet/yahoo - and get them to forward the message to my btinternet friends. But if a customer with btinternet emails me, presumably I won't be able to reply now. Why do big companies have to mess around with things that worked perfectly well until they got their hands on them?

If this is indeed what is happening, it's not aimed at your mail address, but is applied to your whole ISP or email domain for some reason. And from what I read they are not amenable to reason.

The mail is not actually being blocked, but is being initially rejected to try to avoid spam which doesn't bother to retry; however, this seems to be badly implemented in such a way that the retry never actually happens and the message eventually times out.

You could try sending via another smtp (gmail works for me.) gmail will happily write the headers so that my mail comes from my standard address rather than my gmail address.

But thereby hangs an even more contentious problem - Google put in an extra header which is translated by Outlook (and some other mail clients) so that the user sees:

From fred@xxxxxxxxx On Behalf Of joe@xxxxxxxxxxxx

which defeats the point of sending via gmail - the recipient sees the underlying gmail account address as well as the intended address.

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David
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