Re: Ask EU: Mysterious delays in email transmission

"Anne Burgess" <anne.andesite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes (quoting jo):
A couple of times somebody has sent me, and a small group of
others, an email
that has taken about 36 hrs to arrive in my inbox, though the
others got it
straight away.

Looking at the headers of the latest one, it seems to have sat
on one server for
8 hrs (exactly, apparently) and then on another for over a
day. Is this normal?
I googled a bit, but didn't find anything about delays of this
length. AFAIK it
only happens with mail from this one address.

We had something similar last week, An e-mail sent to me and
several others last Monday didn't reach my inbox until Thursday.
It seemed to be mainly those whose ISP is BT who were affected.

the various bt addresses are run by yahoo (spit). yahoo has
been the subject of endless discussion recently on the uk mail
managers' list, because it's been doing this (apparently random delays
to mail) all over the place recently.

they do have a maze of twisty little web passages through which a
persistent manager can complain, but _i_ have no experience of ever
hearing back from them. some people recently have reported
acknowledgements, and lifting of the pointless delays.

it's all part of yahoo's holier-than-thou attitude to spam. if a
yahoo or btinternet or whatever user reports that they didn't want a
mail, yahoo's automatic mechanisms swing into action, and they freeze
out the source of the mail. there are two significant problems with
this behaviour: (1) too many users believe they can unsubscribe from
mailing lists by complaining to their isp, and (2) complaints about
actual spam are usually pointless, since their source isn't in fact a
mailer, but rather a virus-ridden machine which doesn't emit mail of
its own accord. spammers (largely mediated by the mob) are *good* at
their slimy job. the mechanisms yahoo use just don't provide usable
spam protection.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
.

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