Re: The cost of the NHS


"Toooldtocare" <Toooldtocare@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:iK2dnXXYc6gmzljVnZ2dnUVZ8vKdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxx

"Porridge Wog" <Porridge Wog @ Wherever.co.ck> wrote in message news:iZudnR7fS8H2ZlnVnZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@xxxxxxxxx

The real problem is the culture of dependency that the welfare state encourages.

They encourage us to be ill, stupid and lazy, they need to , if we were healthy, educated and had a good work ethic, we wouuld not need to go to hospital, adult education or the local dole office. There would be mass redundencies amongst the civil service. All they would be able to help would be the genuine unfortunates in society, the ones they were meant to help, the genuinely sick or unemployed.

Go to your local sink hole estate and see what the welfare state has grown, pteri dish like out of this process. Even better, come to Fife, to Bozzo browns own constituency, places like ballingery, buckhaven or burntisland and see wht the future holds for us all.

We need to learn to stand up for ourselves by our own efforts, not be rlialnt on the civil service to give us hand outs.


How right you are with most of this. There is a culture of "don't feel too good, go to the doctors. He will give you something for it".

Didn't someone post a few months back that when doctors went on strike somewhere for a couple of months fewer people died? These quacks defy belief sometimes with what they prescribe. Sometime ago a doctor told my wife she should go on HRT. She refused. The quack said "suit yourself, you will knock 5 years of your life if you don't". Now they say, take HRT and you will die 10 years earlier of something nasty.

The latest wheeze is to check your BP when you visit them. If it is high, as it is likely to be after sitting in a waiting room full of coughing and spitting misfits for half an hour, he will persuade the poor sod to go on "blood pressure tablets". Then he will check your cholesterol, if that is one percent about "government guidelines" he will put you on statins. After having those tablets for a few months, you go back to the doctor complaining of headaches. He says to stop you having a stroke you had best go on Warfarin and also a diuretic to compensate for the BP tablets. Don't have a tooth out he warns or cut yourself or you might bleed to death! This actually happened to a friend of mine, he didn't bleed to death, just swallowed a mouthful of tablets every day and he only visited the doc initially because he had pulled something in his back.

It's all a load of bollocks. Doctors have created this myth, rather like economists, that they know what is good for you. The truth of the matter is they rely very largely on what the pharmaceutical sales rep tells them. I've only been to the doctors three times in the last ten years. Each time a "patient" who came out of a "surgery" before me clasped in their hands, with an expression of mixed joy and relief, a "prescription" for what ever ailment they perceived they had. I suppose it enabled the doctor to get rid of them quickly and kept the poor sod happy. That the drugs prescribed were more likely to kill him seemed not to have occurred to either the patient or the doctor. I do not consider antibiotics to be a drug by the way.

In the majority of cases, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, heart disease, depression (not clinical depression) and lung cancer are life style diseases and could either be prevented or cured by a change of lifestyle and diet and exercise. In the States they are even thinking of putting children on statins.Ffs!

All this unnecessary prescription issuing is draining the NHS of money that could be used for serious conditions such as cancer, genetic abnormalities, alzheimers, strokes, macular degeneration, accidents, etc. Using the NHS as a place to go when you feel "fluey" and under the weather is bleeding it dry. People's expectations have got to be changed as to what the NHS can do. Get rid of flu vaccines for a start, totally ineffectual and a con yet must cost millions. The final joke of the NHS is if you don't go very often and have a complaint, while not life threatening needs to be sorted quickly, the doctor advises going private if you can afford it. What a farce!

And if I should snuff it in the near future my life style will be transparent to all by the illness that takes me out. lol

Hmmm getting my BP retested tomorrow as it's too high. Last time I had to sit and wait, like you say, in a surgery waiting room full of screaming kids, people coughing and spluttering and also she was running 15 mins late so no wonder my BP was up!!!!!

Have to say am due to have an Op soon and my GP smiled gleefully when I said I had private healthcare, she said by the time I got a referral to see someone I could have had the op done privately and she'd be happy to write a letter to healthcare company. Thankfully I get mine cheaply through my partner's job (firefighter) and although i've yet to use the company I've heard they're good. Fingers crossed!

JB
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