Re: Compulsory id cards.



"neviksk" <nevikski@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Having read all that I still think what is the problem, I have nothing to
hide therefore ID cards do no worry me.



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"Spadge" <spadge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You may have heard that legislation creating compulsory ID Cards passed a
crucial stage in the House of Commons. You may feel that ID cards are not
something to worry about, since we already have Photo ID for our Passport
and Driving License and an ID Card will be no different to
that. What you have not been told is the full scope of this proposed ID
Card, and what it will mean to you personally.

The proposed ID Card will be different from any card you now hold. It
will be connected to a database called the NIR, (National Identity
Register)., where all of your personal details will be stored. This will
include the unique number that will be issued to you, your fingerprints,
a scan of the back of your eye, and your photograph. Your name, address
and date of birth will also obviously be stored there. There will be
spaces on this database for your religion, residence status, and many
other private and personal facts about you.
There is unlimited space for every other details of your life on the NIR
database, which can be expanded by the Government with or without further
Acts of Parliament.

By itself, you might think that this register is harmless, but you would
be wrong to come to this conclusion. This new card will be used to check
your identity against your entry in the register in real time, whenever
you present it to 'prove who you are'.

Every place that sells alcohol or cigarettes, every post office, every
pharmacy, and every Bank will have an NIR Card Terminal, (very much like
the Chip and Pin Readers that are everywhere now) into which your card
can be 'swiped' to check your identity. Each time this happens, a record
is made at the NIR of the time and place that the Card was presented.
This means for example, that there will be a government record of every
time you withdraw more than £99 at your branch of Nat West, who now
demand ID for these transactions. Every time you have to prove that you
are over 18, your card will be swiped, and a record made at the NIR.
Restaurants and off licenses will demand that your card is swiped so that
each receipt shows that they sold alcohol to someone over 18, and that
this was proved by the access to the NIR, indemnifying them from
prosecution.

Private businesses are going to be given access to the NIR Database. If
you want to apply for a job, you will have to present your card for a
swipe. If you want to apply for a London Underground Oyster Card, or a
supermarket loyalty card, or a driving license you will have to present
your ID Card for a swipe. The same goes for getting a telephone line or a
mobile phone or an internet account.

Oyster, DVLA, BT and Nectar (for example) all run very detailed databases
of their own. They will be allowed access to the NIR, just as every other
business will be. This means that each of these entities will be able to
store your unique number in their database, and place all your travel,
phone records, driving activities and detailed shopping habits under your
unique NIR number.

These databases, which can easily fit on a storage device the size of
your hand, will be sold to third parties either legally or illegally.
It will then be possible for a non governmental entity to create a
detailed dossier of all your activities. Certainly, the government will
have clandestine access to all of them, meaning that they will have a
complete record of all your movements, from how much and when you
withdraw from your bank account to what medications you are taking, down
to the level of what sort of bread you eat - all accessible via a single
unique number in a central database.

This is quite a significant leap from a simple ID Card that shows your
name and face.

Most people do not know that this is the true character and scope of the
proposed ID Card. Whenever the details of how it will work are explained
to them, they quickly change from being ambivalent towards it.

The Government is going to compel you to enter your details into the NIR
and to carry this card. If you and your children want to obtain or renew
your passports, you will be forced to have your fingerprints taken and
your eyes scanned for the NIR, and an ID Card will be issued
to you whether you want one or not. If you refuse to be finger-printed
and eye scanned, you will not be able to get a passport. Your ID Card
will, just like your passport, not be your property. The Home Secretary
will have the right to revoke or suspend your ID at any time, meaning
that you will not be able to withdraw money from your Bank Account, for
example, or do anything that requires you to present your government
issued ID Card.

The arguments that have been put forwarded in favour of ID Cards can be
easily disproved. ID Cards will not stop terrorists; every Spaniard has a
compulsory ID Card as did the Madrid Bombers. ID Cards will not
'eliminate benefit fraud', which in any case, is small compared to the
astronomical cost of this proposal, which will be measured in billions
according to the LSE. This scheme exists solely to exert total
surveillance and control over the ordinary free British Citizen, and it
will line the pockets of the companies that will create the computer
systems at the expense of your freedom, privacy and money.

If you did not know the full scope of the proposed ID Card Scheme before
and you are as unsettled as I am at what it really means to you, to this
country and its way of life, I urge you to email or photocopy this and
give it to your friends and colleagues.

The Bill has proceeded to this stage due to the lack of accurate and
complete information on this proposal being made public. Hand to hand, we
can inform the entire nation if everyone who receives this passes it on.

Please make sure you do this.




Seconded.

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Steve

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