Re: Violent primary school pupils.

On 26/04/2011 07:43, Ret. wrote:
Turk182 wrote:
On Apr 25, 12:38 pm, "Ret." <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Turk182 wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:50 am, "Ret." <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It's ironic, is it not, that as more and more parents adopt the
message that
it is wrong to smack - the number of violent youngsters is
increasing.

I have always disagreed with the notion that smacking is violence
and leads
to violent children. It becomes more and more apparent that the
truth is the complete opposite: if disruptive children are not kept
firmly in check as
they are developing - then they turn into violent and disruptive
little
horrors.

"Fifteen children aged between four and six are being excluded from
school
each day for attacking teachers.
Nearly nine in the same age group are banned daily for violent
attacks on
fellow pupils and a further nine a day for persistent disruptive
behaviour, Government figures show.
Three a day are sent home for using foul language to teachers.

Experts blamed soft parenting and teaching for creating a
generation unable
to respect authority or interact socially without lashing out.
They fear that parents struggling to juggle the pressures of modern
life are unable to spend quality time with their children. Instead
many are left unsupervised in front of a TV or computer and are
influenced by the
behaviour they see on screen.

Read
more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1380221/15-pupils-attack-teac...


For 'parents struggling to juggle the pressures of modern life' -
read 'parents who are more interested in themselves and their
careers than they
are in raising decent, well behaved children...'

Spare the rod and spoil the child is a truism even today, albeit
put a bit crudely.

--
Kev

Clearly the interpretation of a gullible fool. You should never be
given the responsibility of working with children until your
'blindness' is cured. Next time you go on a plane, let's hope the
mechanics trying to get engine to work properly. don't say, "have we
tried hitting it with a hammer". This is no more a cure for a faulty
engine as beating is for a damaged child. Adults damage children.
Children who attack teachers are seriously damaged, and should be
protected from exposure to bodgers like you, who would simply re-
enforce the damage.

Then please explain why children of my era were so well behaved and
would not have dreamt of hitting a teacher or using foul language in
school...

You lot with your 'ban smacking' philosphy have ruined a generation
of children who are growing up with no manners, no behavioural
skills, and no empathy for the feelings of others.

Can you really not understand the damage you have wrought?

--
Kev- Hide quoted text -

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The children from your genereration naturally behaved quite well in
front of men armed with sticks - so took their aggression elsewhere.
It was more covert in school them and you only have to look at the
legions of forces heros' who far from being the saints you depict,
would often beat their wives, their children, the dog, gamble and get
pissed. All because no-one liked talking about feelings!

The very many children who behaved well, did so because the example at
home was loving, responsible, not tainted by awful neglect and because
the children themselves were spoken to by their parents in a way that
was respectful of the child.

Once again you attempt to equate any parent who occasionally applies
mild smacking within a loving relationship with thuggish parenting. It
is dishonest. I was smacked as a child when I overstepped the mark. Were
my parents abusive and neglectful? On the contrary. I had a wonderful
upbringing and loved both my parents dearly. I very occasionally had
need to smack each of my two children. Have they grown up to be
unpleasant thugs? Of course not. They are both now loving parents
themselves, bringing up well behaved kids themselves and still spending
a lot of time with my wife and I because we gave them a very loving
upbringing.

You must break out of this peculiar thought process that any parent who
smacks is brutal and unloving. It is utter utter nonsense.

Absolutely! Our family is a loving family and we would all go out of our way to help other decent folk in genuine need of help.
Yes, our kids received the occasional tap (when necessary), but they have the highest respect for us and show it regularly.

--
Bod
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