Re: Anyone can apply for a warrant over allegations of a serious offence

On Dec 23, 3:59 am, Ste <ste_ro...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 23 Dec, 03:29, Nigel Oldfield <wmcriticalestop...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Atomic clocks prove that speed affects time (relativity in the ST
Continuum).

Indeed..

It is not a 'max to zero' relationship between speed and time (i.e no
speed does not equal no time).

No, but 'zero movement in space' appears to equal 'zero movement in
time'.

Well, I trust that 'fact' is in the paper? It will not be today I get
to look.

No, the paper doesn't make that explicit, although it would be the
natural conclusion. I should qualify it by saying that I'm referring
to the zero movement of matter specifically.

Well, firstly, nothing is totally still, unless at AZ ... and no one
has been there.

Btw the paper is only 7 pages, and not "heavy" in any respect - it
just quickly outlines the issue.

I am working.

Time passes (measurably), even if you are stationary (relative to the
clock).

But how does time pass measurably? What do you measure it with?

The clock.

The clock is merely a mechanical device with some perceived regular
iteration.

Not perceived, provable.

It does not measure *movement* of time - indeed it relies
on time to stay still.

?

The very fact that a clock that is moving at speed falls out of
alignment with a clock kept stationary surely proves that the clock is
not measuring movement in time - it is measuring something else

The clock is based on the atomic decay of the nuclide, which is
invariable (within the relativistic limits).

But by the fact alone, the rate of decay *isn't* invariable.

It is, experimentally.

Whatever
the clock is measuring, it is founded upon the assumption that time is
a constant, when in fact it is a variable -

The passage of time is not constant, it is relative to the observer
and another.

and movement in time is
thus completely imperceptible to the clock.

Of course and yet the measured, elapsed, times are different - hard to
accept eh?

You will be doubting the limit of the speed of light next ;)

What is changing, is the relative passage of time.

But the question is *upon what* is our assumption that we are
constantly moving forward in the 4th dimension founded?

If you view time as the 4th dimension, yes.

The passage of time is, simply, different at the two different speeds
- measurably.

Relativity is a bitch ... try some QM ;)

Lol. I must admit I don't know a great deal about QM, and the few half-
hearted attempts in the past to wrestle with it have left me utterly
confounded, mainly because I don't understand the complex maths
involved (and haven't yet had the inclination to learn the maths).

No need to any more than in relativity. Experiments have been done.

Paper soon.

You mean you haven't looked yet? Anyone who can hear the phrase "time
stands still on earth", and not look at the material provided, cannot
possibly take science seriously! ;)

Well, It does not ;)

Any more refs?

I will get to them.

WM
.

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