Re: Are HP breaking any anti-competition laws or regulations?


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Robert T Probert Jnr wrote:

johannes wrote:

Would you buy a Ford car and expect to see a Rover engine under
the
bonnet?

Bwadr! Ink is a consumable, just like fuel, oil, tyres, plugs, >>>
brakes. > >>Aa >>> well as numerous component parts non-specific to
manufacturer. Even >>>>> sometimes engines!

You obviously have no idea whatsoever how ink is made.

usally in very large batches by large chemical companies .

If the inks in cannon , epsom hp fujitsu etc were examined there
would >
be >>> very little if any difference between them.

Companies like HP will go for the least cost option , they are not >
going >>> to go to the expense of having specialist ink produced its just
not
cost >>> effective


Its more to do with the fact that most printer manufacturers make
very
little money out of the machines themselves , the money comes from
the
consumables which often cost more than the machine itself to replace

But it doesn't need to be this way, it is a business model that they
have
chosen for the consumer market.

You won't find this model in the B2B market, no company would buy a
printer who's cost is subsidised by the price of an "average" use
number
of refills when they know that they will be well above average.

Properly priced printers must exist in the market, but they aren't
advertised to consumers.

tim

Most business tend to go for laser printers ,far cheaper to run over a
life
cycle than inkjet type machines its generally accepted that business
will
also get a pretty heavy discount on stationary supplies because of the
quantities they buy


Your average member of the public is unlikely to want to spend several
hundred pounds plus on a printer its just not cost effective for the
quantity of printing they are likely to do

So they enter into a deal where they expect to spend 20 pounds per month
on
new ink instead.

I know which I think is cheaper overall.

tim

Most domestic users are unlikely to use a cartridge every month , many may
only
use a couple of cartridges in the machines lifetime .

Whilst I realised that my usage was a bit OTT I think that you suggestion is
even less likely.

If you're only looking at buying on new cartridge every three years, then
why is the price of "originals" an issue?

If your looking at changing a cartridge every month then your printer
needs are
way behond those designed for domestic or light office use and you need to
go
down the path of a profesional unit most home users wouldnt need this
capacity

ITYF that there are an awful lot of people who's needs do exceed that for
which a "free" inkjet is the cost effective solution, but they are seduced
by the "deal" in the shop.

tim


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