Re: California officer kills man by mistake

Ret. wrote:
Big Les Wade wrote:

(ignoring your confused phrasing) There are many *possible* reasons.
For example, the one suggested by Cynic, that the killers genuinely
believed the suspect to be one of those responsible for the previous
day's bombing, and wanted to make sure he got what was coming to him
whether or not he was a danger to anyone at that moment.

Whilst Cynic may consider that to be a 'possible' reason, I personally
don't believe that it's a feasible reason.

I think it's a strong possibility. Why else did the police attempt to prevent
an IPCC investigation? If they'd nothing to hide, they'd nothing to fear. (tm)

Another possibility is that the officers had already decided to kill
the suspect immediately in order to minimise any possible risk to
themselves, even though they had no idea whether he really was Osman
or was carrying a bomb,

And another possibility is that their primary thoughts could well have
been not for themselves but for everyone in that carriage - based on the
information fed to them that their target *was* a suicide bomber.

Another is that they were told by some idiot in the control room to
kill him on sight, even though there was no confirmation that the
suspect was an immediate danger.

I don't think that anyone has ever said that such an instruction was
given - although there has been a suggestion that an instruction to
'Stop him' may have been misconstrued as such.

Highly unlikely. They ought to know that they can not be ordered to kill.

Another (and quite likely) explanation is that they simply panicked
and saw the red mist.

I don't think that any of us could state unequivocally how we would act
if we genuinely believed that our lives were in imminent danger. Could you?

There are many more. This is what the inquest is for - to consider
these and other possibilities, and to hear evidence that will either
corroborate or disconfirm them.

I agree.

then I may come around to your pov.

I don't have a POV yet, because I haven't heard all the evidence yet.
Unlike you, I use evidence to guide my opinion, rather than making up
my mind from the outset based on wishful thinking and prejudice.

Or on 30 years experience of working in the police service and with
police officers?

As you would have been trained to express yourself accurately, you to know that
is an admission of prejudice.

--
Mike

Ret.
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