Re: Illegal Downloaders Face Ban

The Todal wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7240234.stm

"People in the UK who go online and illegally download music and films may have their internet access cut under plans the government is considering.
A draft consultation Green Paper suggests internet service providers would be required to take action over users who access pirated material. "

I think we know how this would work. Davenport Lyons would send a monthly letter to each ISP to tell them which customers must be punished, and after about six months you might possibly persuade your ISP that you are innocent and that your access should be restored.



and they will identify people who illegally download music how exactly?

I make an audio recording of an event I'm at (not a concert ot anything) with the full permission of all involved and put it into a torrent, and link it from ym website.

so now you're downloading an mp3 via bit torrent... how exactly does the ISP 'know' if this is legal or illegal?

this sort of thing is proposed often, or so it seems, yet to see a way of making it actually work though.

ISPs should stear clear of trying to reach an agreement, let the gov step in an mandate something, least that way they all suffer.

btw, what exactly stops me, with a wifi router setting up an open server? and if a few friends within range do likewise and it egts linked up.. so we can all share each others private 'internet' who is the ISP here for stuff on that network?

likewise i see a huge potential for sites offering VPN based internet access, with adverts inserted directly into the html to make filtering marginally harder.. but allowing a reasonably secure internet connection.

oh and as for encryption.. um yeah whatever, ASCII is encryption so i'd like to see them try banning it, hell binary is encryption if you think about it.

also i predict a rise in home videos, not very well compressed, with stuff hidden within them via stenograhpy.

ISPs let the governemtn rule on this one, let *them* define what you have to do and how you have to do it.

and lets hope the law say ISPs must take 'all practical steps' or some such, cus deep packet inspection of an encrypted stream, and then decididng if its legal this week or not isn't practical.

I realise copyright infringment *is* a problem, but this is not a owrking solution.

personally i'd prefer to see a 'tax' on my internet connection, say a few quid a month, with the gov distributiong it to anyone who can show they have registered something as copyright, and an even split at that so its not just 'big corp' who gets something back, and the result being that downloading stuff just becomes legal, and everyone is paying.

ok so this is not to everyones tastes, but can you think of any other way to provide compensation, one that won't cost the earth to police?

uploading becomes legal if 'not for profit' and that includes adverts on web pages, so joe bloggs can upload stuff, since he pays the tax, and his friends can download, since they pay the tax. but a company would still need a license.

the plus side of this is that it removes the need for encryption, which may make the task of finding the kiddie fiddlers/random bad guys easier since most traffic will be in the plain.

"but what about people outside the uk downloading" easy thats the problem of the country these people live in, not ours.

a couple of quid a month to make this whole stupid problem, and the DRM these morons love to try go away? worth it? I think so.

and given the gov will take about half the tax to cover the admin i doubt they would have a problem either.

but i guess we will get some stupidly complex laws that don't really work and no one really understands, that are expensive to police and ultimatley pointless.

but the likes of crapita or whoever end up implementing it will get millions..

sigh.
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