Re: WTF? A new tax?

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On 3 Jan, 08:28, Steve <s...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 05:28:48 -0800 (PST), whitely...@xxxxxxxxxxx
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On 2 Jan, 08:09, "Display name:" <nokia.acco...@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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It is lack of supply. Planning restrictions are choking the
supply.

As if, the builders ahave been carefully drip feeding supply to
keep prices
up for years. Now even with that in effect supply has exceeeded
demand by a large margin and sites are being mothballed for future
use. Builders I know are leaving half built sites all over.

No, they have been forced to redevelop only brownfield sites to
provide flats, flats and more flats.

I think "encouraged" is a more reasonable word. There is no reason
why developers can't build small houses on this land, just not 4
beds with half acre gardens.

This is fine to an extent, but
it is not what many people want,

This bit I don't understand. We are told that the reason there is
more demand for housing is because there are more smaller families,
e.g.:children leaving home sooner and wanting their 'own' place, not
a share, couples splitting up and needing two (small) houses instead
of one etc. These people need 'flats', not houses with large
gardens. So, either this isn't the reason that we need more properties
built,
or flats is the right type of property. Or perhaps it's that people
are just too damned fussy and insist on a 4 bed with garden when the
don't need it. My money's on the latter.

I think you've gone a bit cart before horse, here.
Families generally prefer a larger house and garden.
The reason that they opt for a small one is because the larger ones
are expensive.
And the reason the larger ones are expensive is that they are in
short supply.
And the reason they are in short supply is that developers aren't
building enough of them.


What absolute twaddle (of reasoning).

What an absolute cnut (of course).


Of course people want to live in a larger houses than they can
afford. I'd love to have a Rolls Royce in my garage but I can't
afford it.
We live in a relatively highly populated country. It is unrealistic
to expect all houses that are built to have 4 bedrooms and a large
garden. Less of these (type of) houses are built because there simply
isn't enough land available for them to be built on (assuming that we
want to leave land for other things).

When they are built, large houses are more expensive because they
need more (expensive) land, building more of them is not going to
make them cheaper.
tim


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