Re: Advice child benefit
- From: "James" <James@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:47:03 -0000
"Robbie" <ngrobbieuk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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James wrote:
"Robbie" <ngrobbieuk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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James wrote:
Hi,She must have strung them along fore sometime for her to have been hit
Basically I have 2 children 3 years and 15 months, who'm I give the
mother
money for them £20 a week. We are both on benefit. When they initially
ocntacted her she said she did't give the, my details. They contacted
her a
few more times and she still didn;t give them my details.
She received a letter this week saying her income support has been
recaluculated at £35 and a few pence which was at £59 and a bit.
I told her to just name me and as I'm on benefit it'll probly be a £10
deduction from my benefits which I read on one of the benfite help
sites.
But she said if she names me they will know she has been lieing, and
aparantly that can cause more troubles like causing her benefits to
stop.
Whats the best course of action to take here so she gets her full
benefit ?
Appreciate any advice, bit of a bombshell before xmas and I guess
they've
shut up shop till after christmas now.
by a benefit sanction.
She should name you as the father. The benefit sanction is there to
force her to name the father.
I can also tell you that with 100% certainty she will now be the subject
of a fraud investigation. Many women who don't name the father are found
to be living with a boyfriend but don't inform the DWP.
She needs to own up and just name you. Her benefits won't be affected.
The DWP are used to a woman holding out for as long as possible in
naming the father and then coming clean when her benefit is cut. She is
also probably committing fraud as I assume she doesn't declare the money
you give her.
That made very interesting reading Robbie.
I told her I had no problem in naming me as the father but she felt it
was some kind of betryal as I pay for stuff for them all the time which
she is happy with. Perhaps I should ocntact them and identify myself so
she gets her full benefit ?
I don't know if you could contact them - it's her claim, legally they
shouldn't even acknowledge that she is claiming anything.
Out of curiosity what would the ramifications means if I was living with
her (hypothetically)?. We have seperated and am living in a lovely one
bedroom not to far away which is handy for seeing the kids daily.
The fraud investigation bit is a bit worrying TBH, what exactly does that
entail ?
Any mother who refuses to name the father or where there is sufficient
doubt with her story almost always comes under a fraud investigation. As I
said, it's because in many cases the mother turns out to be living with
the bloke.
Ahh I see, a sort of stndard procedure as it were. If it turns out she was
living with a man how could they prove that his involvement as the father or
that he is living there ? Do they camp outside and snap pictures around the
clock or something ?
An investigation can mean a lot of things, it can include checks on the
electoral register, a check with credit reference agencies or even plain
old fashioned snooping - sitting outside the house or doing unannounced
home visits.
Ahh. If they do a unannounced visit. What would happen if you turned them
away ? Do they have any powers to enter your home ?
If you were living with her you both could be prosecuted if both of youBut if they find out my name how could she be prosecuted for not telling
are on means tested benefits. At the very least she could be prosecuted.
But if you do love apart and everything else is above board then little
could be done, unless they find out your name when she could be prosecuted
for giving a false statement (highly unlikely but it is a false statement
she will have given) re: who the father is.
them as say in a scenario they woman doesn't know the name or has a known
name like anickname or somesuch how would that work out ?
So if she gets prosecuted what does that actually mean ? a charge of fraud ?
would she receive a loss in total benefit ... what happens after that point
?
Also I am not giving her any monies, but I am happily contributing to my
children needs.
For which if it was done above board would lead to her benefit being
reduced by anything over £10 that you give her. She is defrauding the
taxpayer, even if the money is being spent on the children, since she
would be getting less money in income support if the true facts were
declared. Again, the DWP know that in cases such as this (where the father
isn't named) that there is often an informal arrangement in place between
the mother and the father.
I see.
She needs to own up quick as the truth will probably come out in the end -
say she meets another bloke, do you think she'll continue to refuse to
name you? She may come off benefits if he is working and then she may want
proper child maintenance payments with everything done above board.
Point taken, best to get things going on a level table and do it properly.
Appreciate your reply and information has been of great help Robbie, cheers.
.
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