Re: Noel O'Gara has been sent to jail

On Oct 3, 5:23 pm, "charlesweh...@xxxxxxxxxxx"
<charlesweh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I really cannot see what stories of near-collisions of planets has to
do with Noel O'Gara being sent to prison.
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Well, Tony Holland started this page as part of his hate campaign
against Noel O'Gara and Patrick Cullinane. To foil Tony by converting
his hate campaign into a useful discussion was a good thing to do.
I know you have accurate knowledge of certain historical episodes.
However, the problem is that there are so few who care.

The following is my latest post, aptly titled "The Only Conversation
Worth Having" --
reproduced from newsgroup
http://groups.google.ie/group/The-Voice-of-the-Voiceless/browse_frm/thread/a44abae0d488e293/3be86ea4390fcef4?hl=en

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THE ONLY CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING
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I was born in 1948 in western Europe.
As a child, I soon understood that all the adults around me were very
severely mentally ill. There was no exception. ALL the adults were
shitheads. I had to deny this. To say that the adults are mentally ill
would bring punishment.
Already in the year of my birth, 1948, certain publications were
warning that our farming practices were eroding the soil and that
eventually our food supply would fail.
In 1950, when I was two years of age, as "The Thing" by Phil Harris
blared out from the radio, Immanuel Velikovsky published "Worlds In
Collision" - explaining much about the mental illness the adults
around me were exhibiting. Dr Velikovsky's later volume, "Mankind In
Amnesia," went on to clarify the diagnosis of our tragic mental
illness.
In the 1960s came Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring."
In the 1970s came Hans Ruesch's "IMPERATRICE NUDA."
In the 1980s, John Hamaker revealed that we could prevent the
destruction of our food supply by remineralising the soil with
powdered rock fertiliser.
Nothing was done.
Then in 1990, we formally surrendered to The Vivisection Swindle.
Now, it's only a matter of time. It's not a question of if, but WHEN
our civilisation will collapse, returning us to the state of
survivalist emergency.
The best way to focus your minds and to jerk yourself out of the *fake
debates* is to read again pages 9 to 11 of 'IMPERATRICE NUDA' by Hans
Ruesch. If I give a link to it, you will avoid it, so I'll quote it
directly below. Anyone who reads pages 9 to 11 of 'IMPERATRICE NUDA'
will understand that there is a *fake debate* on The Vivisection
Swindle in the media and in the bogus "antivivisection" organisations,
and that The Vivisection Swindle is the most successful organised
crime scam in all of human history and is also the greatest disaster
to befall the human race in the past 2,700 years, and that The
Vivisection Swindle is responsible for many more human deaths than
World War Two. Something like 50 million human beings were killed in
World War Two. The Vivisection Swindle has killed many more than 50
million human beings.
Here it is again, your Reality Check - pages 9 to 11 of 'IMPERATRICE
NUDA' by Hans Ruesch:
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Begin extract from IMPERATRICE NUDA by Hans Ruesch, also
titled "Slaughter of the Innocent," pages 9 to 11, upon which
further comment would be superfluous:
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"The Great Drug Deception" by Dr Ralph Adam Fine (Stein and
Day, New York, 1972) is just one of the many books published in
the last decade on the subject of dangerous and often lethal
drugs, but it achieved no practical results. Health
authorities, as well as the public, stubbornly refused to take
cognizance of the fact that all those drugs had been okayed and
marketed after having been proved safe for animals. Actually it
is unfair to single out just a few dangerous drugs, since there
are thousands of them.
Of course the fallacy works both ways, precluding the
acceptance of useful drugs. There is the great example of
penicillin - if we want to consider this a useful drug. Its
discoverers said they were fortunate. No guinea pigs were
available for the toxicity tests, so they used mice instead.
Penicillin kills guinea pigs. But the same guinea pigs can
safely eat strychnine, one of the deadliest poisons for humans
- but not for monkeys.
Certain wild berries are deadly for human beings, but birds
thrive on them. A dose of belladona that would kill a man is
harmless for rabbits and goats. Calomelan doesn't influence the
secretion of bile in dogs, but can treble it in man.
The use of digitalis - the main remedy for cardiac patients and
the saviour of countless lives the world over - was retarded
for a long time because it was first tested on dogs, in which
it dangerously raises blood pressure. And chloroform is so
toxic to dogs that for many years this valuable anesthetic was
not employed on patients. On the other hand a dose of opium
that would kill a man is harmless to dogs and chickens.
Datura and henbane are poison for man, but food for the snail.
The mushroom *amanita phalloides*, a small dose of which can
wipe out a whole human family, is consumed without ill effects
by the rabbit, one of the most common laboratory animals. A
porcupine can eat in one lump without discomfort as much opium
as a human addict smokes in two weeks, and wash it down with
enough prussic acid to poison a regiment of soldiers.
The sheep can swallow enormous quantities of arsenic, once the
murderers' favourite poison.
Potassium cyanide, deadly for us, is harmless for the owl, but
one of our common field pumpkins can put a horse into a serious
state of agitation. Morphine, which calms and anesthetizes man,
causes maniacal excitement in cats and mice, but dogs can stand
doses up to 20 times higher than man. On the other hand, our
sweet almonds can kill foxes and chickens, and our common
parsley is poison to parrots.
Robert Koch's Tuberkulin, once hailed as a vaccine against
tuberculosis because it cures TB in guinea pigs, was found
later on to CAUSE TB in man.
There are enough such instances to fill a book - all proving
that it would be difficult to find a more absurd and less
scientific method of medical research (than animal
experimentation).
Moreover, the anguish and sufferings of the animals, deprived
of their natural habitat or habitual surroundings, terrorized
by what they see in the laboratories and the brutalities they
are subjected to, alter their mental balance and organic
reactions to such an extent that ANY result is a priori
valueless.
The laboratory animal is a monster, made so by the
experimenters.
Physically and mentally it has very little in common with a
normal animal, and much less with man.
As even Claude Bernard (1813-1878), founder of the modern
vivisectionist method, wrote in his Physiologie Operatoire
(page 152): "The experimental animal is never in a normal
state. The normal state is merely a supposition, an
assumption."
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Somebody launched the idea of breeding strains of
bacteriologically sterile laboratory animals...................
One delusion spawned another. Consistent failure made certain
of those misguided scientists realize - some haven't realized
it yet - that organic "material" raised under such abnormal
conditions differs more than ever from normal organisms.
Animals so raised never develop the natural defence mechanism,
the so-called immunological reaction, which is a salient
characteristic of every living organism. So it would be
difficult to devise a less reliable experimental material.
Besides, animals are by nature immune to most human infections
- diphtheria, thyphus, scarlet fever, German measles, smallpox,
cholera, yellow fever, leprosy and bubonic plague - while other
infections, such as TB and various septicemias, take up
different forms in animals. So the claim that through animals
we can learn to control human diseases could seem a sign of
madness if we didn't know that it is just a pretext for
carrying on "experiments" which, however dangerously misleading
for medical science, are either intimately satisfying for those
who execute them, or highly lucrative.
The Swiss nation illustrates well to what extent the profit
motive promotes vivisection: with a population of less than 6
million, Switzerland uses up annually many times as many
laboratory animals as does all of Soviet Russia with its 250
million inhabitants, but where there is no money in the making
of medicines.
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-End of extract from IMPERATRICE NUDA / "Slaughter of the
Innocent" by Hans Ruesch, pages 9-11.
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I said further comment on Hans Ruesch's words would be
superfluous.
Nevertheless I just want to reiterate what I've stated earlier:
..........that to toss a coin would be a MUCH more reliable method of
testing a new substance for its safety for human beings than to
shove it down an animal's throat.
If we toss a coin, we'll get it right fifty per cent of the
time.
Heads it's safe, tails it's unsafe.
By contrast, if we grant our permission to our shithead
imbecile scientists to carry out animal tests, the errors
multiply in geometric progression until we don't know whether
we are coming or going. The result is the avalanche of "animal
tested" (=UNTESTED) poisons flooding into the environment at an
accelerating rate which will soon strangle the earth's life
support system
Just read your newspaper (with your eyes open this time) to see
what vivisection is doing to you.
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So, that is your reality check, if you want it. Clearly The
Vivisection Swindle has killed many more than the 50 million killed by
World War Two. Next consider the *fake debate* on vivisection in the
media. NOW do you understand how serious our mental illness is?
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THE ONLY CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING is the conversation about what we
plan to do after we have achieved the destruction of the earth's life
support system and reverted to a state of survivalist emergency.
What are your plans for after the collapse of the present
civilisation, which we have been working toward for forty years?
I have the right to ask you that question. Again, the question is:
what are you planning to do AFTER you have achieved your aim of
destroying the earth's life support system? Are you planning to build
up the same imbecility we see around us today............
......or would you consider building something decent instead?
I have the right to ask you that question. I was born into your ***.
When I saw what you are doing, I asked you to stop it. You refused. In
1990 you surrendered to The Vivisection Swindle, and soon your
avalanche of "animal tested" (=UNTESTED) poisons will deprive us of
our food supply and restore us to the state of survivalist emergency.
So again, as one who was born into your filthy stinking *** in 1948
and has had to live my life surrounded by your filthy stinking ***,
I demand that you answer my question: what are you planning to do
AFTER you have destroyed the earth's life support system with your
avalanche of "animal tested" (=UNTESTED) poisons?
Are you planning to rebuild your filthy stinking *** that we see all
around us today.....
...... or can we build something DECENT instead, after your avalanche
of "animal tested" (=UNTESTED) poisons has destroyed us?
I am entitled to an answer to that question, so answer it now.
The question again is: what are you planning to do AFTER your
avalanche of "animal tested" (=UNTESTED) poisons has destroyed the
earth's life support system? Are you planning to build a new version
of your filthy stinking *** which we see all around us now, or can
we build something DECENT after your avalanche of "animal
tested" (=UNTESTED) poisons has destroyed your present ***?
Answer the question, shitebags. I've been living in your filthy
stinking *** since 1948, so I'm entitled to an answer to that simple
question.
What are your plans for after the coming collapse, shitebags?
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THE FORBIDDEN SUBJECTS in brief - a reminder:
(1) ===The Solar System is inherently unstable and at irregular
intervals other planets repeatedly pass close to the earth destroying
civilisations and modifying religions, the last such event having
occurred only 2,700 years ago, though censored out of the historical
and geological records by common consent via collective scotoma /
amnesia.
(2) ===Every part of the earth's surface, above and below sea level,
testifies to the effects and legacy of interplanetary near-collisions
within historical times, but the bogus, fraudulent "sciences" of
"geology" and "archaeology" are exercises in mass scotoma intended to
deny the evidence of our senses.
(3) ===Scotoma - meaning the denial of part of what our senses
perceive in front of us - comes so easily to human beings because
scotoma was considered necessary to our physical survival in the
forgotten survivalist emergencies that were the aftermath of the
forgotten poleshifts, and whatever is associated in our brains and in
our archetypes with physical survival tends to repeat indefinitely.
(4) ===The foods we eat are slow poisons but we feel a compulsion to
continue to eat these slow poisons because they were thought to be
our
only means of survival for a brief period after the poleshifts, and
activities associated in our brains and in our archetypes with
physical survival tend to repeat indefinitely.
(5) ===In particular, consuming the flesh and blood of tortured,
terrified animals is a major source of the violence and hate in human
behaviour, as the last thoughts and frenzied emotions of our dying
victims live on as psychic energy and transmute themselves from the
meat into our human brains as tendencies to repeat the violence and
hate we perpetrated upon those sentient beings.
(6) ===Animal experimentation or vivisection is entirely fraudulent
and has been generating an avalanche of "animal tested" poisons which
is the major source of environmental pollution and will soon destroy
the earth's life support system, enabling us to repeat and relive the
forgotten survivalist emergencies, because traumatic amnesia
sufferers
always strive to repeat the forgotten trauma.
(7) ===The mother-infant relationship is largely institutionalised
child abuse imposed on our ancestors to reduce children to soldier
material, as were our other major societal arrangements such as the
amazing ban on loving more than one person (=the rationing of love,
=marriage-type relationships), and so our societal arrangements
automatically generate pain and have no validity in a world which can
sustain all its inhabitants and therefore our societal arrangements
should be abolished as soon as feasible in the interests of healing,
and this too is hidden under a veil of scotoma / amnesia.
(8) ===What is happening in the nursing homes (and in old age
generally) is a compulsive and pathological repeat performance of the
worst horrors of the mother-infant relationship, or a final, feeble
protest against what our mothers did to us, again barred from our
conscious awareness by collective scotoma / amnesia.
(9) ===Although we like to imagine we are striving in various ways
'to
make the world a better place' and 'to put an end to human
suffering,'
we are actually and unwittingly striving for permanent failure and
permanent stagnation from a long-term perspective, and this addiction
to stagnation and failure is in large measure an analogue or 'acting
out' or mimicking of our eleven-thousand-year failure to restore
sanity and decency to the mother-infant relationship, which is
something we all yearn for intensely in our innermost being but feel
unable even to articulate, let alone make a start at achieving it.
(10) ===We can prove scientifically beyond any doubt that God exists,
although It is not the personalised, humanised, magnified man god of
religions.
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Illustrations:
"The Golden Age" by Lucas Cranach: (please search internet);
"New Planet" Youon (please search internet);
"The Silver Age" by Lucas Cranach (please search internet);
"Melancholia" by Lucas Cranach (please search internet).
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Related links:
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"The Thing - revisited"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1164139595/last-116413959...
"The Trilogy of Truth"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1190391212/last-1190391729/THE+TRILOGY+OF+TRUTH+revisited
"Declaration for Healing"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1144642466/last-114464246...
"Paradise Lost - the true story"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1152677361/last-115267736...
"The Fourth Commandment"
http://www.article-planet.com/article1559.html
"Silence of the Damned"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1140491483/last-114049148...
"Objection Overruled"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1157991625/last-115799162...
"Healing Our Tragic Civilisation"
http://groups.google.ie/group/The-Voice-of-the-Voiceless/msg/b759b917...
"Vampires and Saturnalia"
http://www.article-planet.com/article1362.html
"The Shame"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1143213047/last-114321304...
"The Shame revisited"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1159106971/last-115910697...
"The Incest Taboo"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1148921377/last-114892137...
"Mummy's Bum"
http://www.article-planet.com/article1361.html
"All Our Songs Are Sad"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1173969083/last-117396908...
"Practical Reparenting Therapy - The First Step"
http://groups.google.ie/group/The-Voice-of-the-Voiceless/msg/ca78ba6bf1db22d2?&hl=en
"Practical Reparenting Therapy - One Step At A Time"
http://www.article-planet.com/article3066.html
"The Holy Grail"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1144022433/last-114402243...
"Shaking the Baby"
http://www.article-planet.com/article1434.html
"Circumcision"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1143342641/last-114334264...
"Baby Massage"
http://www.article-planet.com/article1448.html
"Breatharians and Breastfeeding"
http://www.article-planet.com/article1390.html
"Remember Or Die"
http://rememberordie.blog.co.uk/main/
"The Law of the Sea"
http://www.article-planet.com/article556.html
"The End of the World In Reverse"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1173463517/last-117346351...
"Plan C and Plan D"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1177084083/last-117708408...
"Vivisection and its Crucial Role in the Scheme of Things"
http://www.article-planet.com/index.php?page=article&article_id=314
"Vivisection and Alternative History"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1170085888/last-117008588...
"Imperatrice Nuda revisited"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1162607187/last-116260718...
"The Abolition of Vivisection - how it is going to happen"
http://www.nzavs.org.nz/mobilise/27/12.html
"Vivisection - its amazing significance"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1162877691/last-116287769...
http://www.hansruesch.net/ (partly under construction)
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1125352319/last-112535231...
"Aterhov"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1168082135/last-116808213...
"Aterhov (2)"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1168274410/last-116827441...
And other articles in this series.
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BIBLIOGRAPHY FOR HEALING
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+++THE HIDDEN TEACHING BEYOND YOGA+++
+++Paul Brunton+++
+++THE WISDOM OF THE OVERSELF+++
+++Paul Brunton+++
+++SLAUGHTER OF THE INNOCENT+++
+++Hans Ruesch+++
+++NAKED EMPRESS+++
+++Hans Ruesch+++
+++LISTEN, LITTLE MAN!+++
+++Wilhelm Reich+++
+++WOMEN WHO LOVE TOO MUCH+++
+++Robin Norwood+++
+++LETTERS FROM WOMEN WHO LOVE TOO MUCH+++
+++Robin Norwood+++
+++HOME COMING+++
+++John Bradshaw+++
+++FAMILY SECRETS+++
+++John Bradshaw+++
+++THOU SHALT NOT BE AWARE+++
+++Alice Miller+++
+++FOR YOUR OWN GOOD+++
+++Alice Miller+++
+++WORLDS IN COLLISION+++
+++Immanuel Velikovsky+++
+++EARTH IN UPHEAVAL+++
+++Immanuel Velikovsky+++
+++MANKIND IN AMNESIA+++
+++Immanuel Velikovsky+++
+++THE VOICE OF THE VOICELESS - The Universal Infant talks back to the
mothers of this civilisation+++
+++Peter Newman+++
(this last title is available as free e-book from author on request)
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Again, as some people seem determined to misunderstand, I'll repeat
this paragraph:
===It is not helpful for one family or one group to try to go it
alone in changing back to antediluvian child rearing practices. That
will do more harm than good - because the children will still have to
grow up surrounded by an insane civilisation. It has to be all or
nothing,
the whole world or nothing. The only way forward is a prolonged
period of education by consent leading to a future time when the
entire
human family worldwide will know the truth and will make the decision
collectively to come out of survivalist mode and to behave with a bit
of decency and fairness toward a future generation of babies,
starting from the core issue of *Mummy's Bum* (The Holy Grail) and
then building upon that vital initial IMPRINT of decency and fairness
placed on every infant's brain at the start.
This re-education / reorientation process will be in effect
REHEARSALS FOR FUTURE SANITY among adults, including Practical
Reparenting Therapy among adults which will entail both correcting our
own mothers' mistakes in every physical and emotional detail AND
rehearsing for a future time when all mothers will be sane again, just
as mothers were sane eleven thousand years ago.===
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Illustrations:
"The Golden Age" by Lucas Cranach:
"New Planet" by Youon
"The Silver Age" by Lucas Cranach
"Melancholia" by Lucas Cranach
(links tend to be faulty; please search internet for those vital
images.)
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O ISHTAR COME !
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I pray today will be the day
When Ishtar sweeps our filth away
To end a world that torments me
A world that has no right to be
Scotoma and amnesia rule
To stop you knowing you're a fool
Hauteur and glory seeking too
Conceal the "shame" of being you
Eleven thousand years ago
The world went mad but you don't know
Survival and necessity
Reduced you to insanity
Amnesia to ease the pain
Makes you forget that you're insane
You're in a prison of the mind
The key is not too hard to find
Reality is hard to bear
But you can see it if you care
So cruel your mothers had to be
You all forgot your infancy
The avalanche of toxic shame
The love that dare not speak its name
Survivalism is your creed
So you deny your infant's need
To keep the soldier and the gun
Your love is rationed to just one
The fake debates are on TV
Eclipsing what you need to see
The Vivisection Swindle grows
The avalanche of poison flows
The food you eat is so much trash
As bogus "experts" take your cash
To tell you lies you want to hear
Because the truth arouses fear
The Holy Grail you cannot find
It's too "offensive" to your mind
The source of pain is clear to see
You know the long-term remedy
But when you're asked to make a start
You turn away, too faint of heart
And run to hire a bogus "seer"
Who'll tell you what you want to hear
"THE JOB WILL DO ITSELF!" he'll say
And you'll forget you have to pay
With labour and the loss of pride,
The only way to turn the tide
Your heads are firmly in the sand
O ISHTAR! give a helping hand
A Shining Cross up in the sky
Our sick society will die
The cleansing sea engulfs the land
As healing comes by Ishtar's hand
Then darkness reigns for many years
To give us time to calm our fears
To see the errors of our past,
Regain our sanity at last.
"Holy Communion" has to be
For us to reach maturity
The vampire legends are half true
At times that's what we have to do
But if you need to suck my blood
Just ask me first, you know you should
As sailors did in days of yore
When they were stranded far from shore.
The ruling group are training you
To think there's nothing you can do
To keep their power they must retain
Arrangements that are causing pain
When Ishtar comes, there's only you,
Your chance to make some dreams come true
The thought is father to the deed
Now is the time to sow the seed
So think before you build again
Do not be ruled by foolish men
Let infants teach you what to do
They have no shame, their love is true
A baby's love is like the sun
It freely shines on everyone
No ban on loving more than one
No body parts you have to shun
Let baby take your shame away
Let baby all your fears allay
O ISHTAR COME to end our pain
And then we'll learn to love again
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