Re: Possessions




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How can anyone in law justify on an absolute level that anyone on this
planet has any rights or lawful ownership of any possession?

Would you mind if someone were to walk off with your computer, having
decided that you have no right to possess it?

--
Cynic

Don't get me wrong - I'm not a raving newsgroup troll who is so dumb not
to realise that they "live in the real world", but as to your question,
on one level - I wouldn't give a damn and on another of course, I would.
If you stop and consider the enormity of the universe and how utterly
insignificant we all are, and also that life is short - it really doesn't
matter at all!

We to some extent choose to live in this abstract human framework called
society, complete with laws, etc and we have developed it to such a level
that we can no longer see how absurd it is and how absurd its central
originating concepts are and can no longer, it seems think outside of
this framework. Granted, there's not a lot anyone can do about it now its
all here, but surely some of you out there must stop from time to time
and think to yourselves - what a load of bullshit this all is!

I would just say this: as you say, we live in the "real world", however
you choose
to interpret that concept. In doing so there are certain givens which most
accept
without question. One of them, which has been accepted by societies both
ancient & modern, primitive & civilised, structured & unstructured, is the
notion of
property, certainly as a relativistic right against others.

Personally, I wish I had the luxury to ponder how much, if at all, this is
a
"load of bullshit", but I am not a philosopher and find it necessary to
feed &
clothe myself (for my own survival and protection). Your post makes me
think
of St. Augustine's analogy of human life as "a white bird flying out of
the eternal
darkness, into a brightly lit banqueting hall, then out again into the
eternal night";
from this I deduce that life is short, too short in fact to worry unduly
about
the abstractions you would appear to support.

Perhaps this thread would be better off posted to alt.philosophy, because
ISTM
that it has very little to do with uk.legal, since if there is any legal
POV at all it is
related to jurisprudence, which questions why laws are the way they are
rather than
why we have laws at all, for that topic is usually regarded here as being
beyond debate.

Lee.

Thanks, that was a good post and agreed, this was more a philosophical
"rant" than any specific point to answer.


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