Re: Credit Card Question

On Tue, 29 May 2007 09:19:03 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
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On Mon, 21 May 2007 11:01:36 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
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peterwn wrote:

At this pont, if you have spare equity on any house you own, then ask
the mortgagee for a top up to clear the credit card debt. If not,
either cut the card in two, or put it in a mug of water and put it in
the freezer (this is a sort of time lock).
which will also break the mug.
No. It won't break the mug until you remove it and thaw it, though it
is
quite possible to thaw it without breaking the mug

That would depend on the mug in question. If it has a narrow point
above its widest point (and I do have a couple of mugs shaped that
way), then it could be broken during the freezing process.

Hey I got one!

As any plumber will tell you, it is a myth that water expands on
freezing. The actual expansion takes place when the ice warms up to the
point of thawing. The water doesn't in fact freeze at 0°C, it will
supercool for a few degrees before finally freezing, thust it will not be
at its maximum volume at this point. But it has to warm to 0°C before it
can melt during which time its volume increases significantly.

No it doesn't , ice is less dense than water - thus takes up more space-
as ice is formed it needs more room.


But it shrinks rapidly at first as it is cooled from 0°C. It will never
become more dense than water (at least not over the temperature range that
we are considering).

The reason pipes only *seem* to burst during a thaw is that although the
damage was caused earlier during the freeze, the water is frozen and can't
leak out. Once the thaw starts the water pisses out of the crack!


I'm sorry, but you are quite wrong. If you can catch the frozen pipe while
it is still at around -5°C or less, it is possible to thaw the pipe without
it bursting. You have to do it from one end, not from the middle. If it
has warmed up to 0°C, it is too late, it will have burst from the expansion.


This is only true if you can catch it before it is frozen fully hard.
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