Re: Problems with Tesco

On Mon, 21 May 2007 09:23:57 +0100, MM <kylix_is@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sun, 20 May 2007 23:38:00 +0100, Cynic <cynic_999@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sun, 20 May 2007 09:57:59 +0100, MM <kylix_is@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

AIUI, they are not allowed to serve any new customer.

Cite?

Which means that if any items have been rung up for a customer, they
can finish serving them.

At which point does the customer become such, i.e. a customer? When he
reaches for a packet of tea, when he places it in the shopping
trolley, when he places it on the conveyor belt, when the operator
scans the item, or when the shopper hands over the money? How does it
work in your binary world? Haven't you heard of give and take?

It's not Alex who makes the rules, it's the law. And the question is
not when the person *starts* being a customer, it's when they *cease*
being a customer.

So if it doesn't matter to *start* being a customer, preventing entry
while the shop is patently still open is illegal, no?


NO>

How can you have utterly failed to understand what many different
people have been saying?

There is NOTHING in law which requires them to allow entry to any
given individual, no matter what the time is, and no matter whether
they are "open" or not.

It isn't even close to being unlawful, never mind illegal ("patently"
or not)

And what about those showing only 24 seconds after their allotted
time? Or 3 seconds? Surely, in your eyes, guilty as charged! I expect
you'll spend the rest of Sunday mulling this over! This reminds me of
Shylock and his pound of flesh, and why he desisted.

You are fond of shooting the messenger. Alex is not responsible for
the law or how it is applied. I personally believe that it is an
unnecessary law, but that would not stop me being fined were I to own
a supermarket and decide to make my own rules that contravened the
law.

Didn't you notice that Alex's careful study of the law has revealed
that a store is "... allowed to continue serving those who are already
in the store, provided they can *show* that fact, and provided such
service is *completed* within half an hour of the stated closing
time."?


Are you able to read?

If so, might I suggest you read that paragraph of Cynic's again?
Properly this time.




This would imply that the guard *has* to permit entry literally right
up to the wire.

It implies no such thing.

It implies that IF THEY WISH, the shop MAY choose to permit entry
right up to the wire.


The final answer could just be that a *closed door* is what prohibits
entry. If the guard is SO concerned about last-minute shoppers, then
he should obviously close the doors. Customers already in the store
and legally paying for their goods would be let out individually,
perhaps through a smaller side door, as used to happen.

And which, as has been pointed out several times already in this
thread, is simply not practical with most modern large supermarkets.
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