Re: 'Child porn too easy to locate'


"tiscali" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Mr Nobody" <me@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:50:03 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:24:33 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
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"tiscali" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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And how easy is it to inadvertantly download porn? After this case I
checked all the hidden folders on my pc and found images of extremely
hard
adult porn that I had no idea were there - I never accessed those
sites!
Seems evey pop-up you delete leaves the images in hidden files in
your
pc!
It's really scary.

Very easy. An image can be included in any web page but specified to
display in a 1 pixel square block. Although the image won't appear on
the
page (except as a dot), it is downloaded into the cache. But as you
note,
even if you delete it from the cache, it is retained in the really
hidden
folders that Windows won't let you access, even if you know where they
are.

http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml

That appears to be mainly about the history of web addresses you have
accessed - kept in the index.dat files which don't have an efficient
method of deletion/compacting.

I don't think it's true that files (e.g. JPEGS) are routinely kept
after you have deleted them from your IE cache - except in the free
space of your HD until overwritten.

Are you really really sure about that?

Where would it keep them all? Graphics files are big, compared to
history references. And why would it bother in the first place?
There's always the chance copies of a few isolated files will be kept
in temporary folders, e.g. Local Settings\Temp but those can be got
rid of with Disk Cleanup.

It's *references* to Internet addresses and the *locations* of cached
files that may be kept inadvertently, as there are likely to be
multiple copies of these in indexing files for efficiency of access.

Windows keeps files in the unused portion of your hdd until they get
overwritten by new data.

Apparently, they do form part of the directory structure - they just do not
appear in it. They are are not marked as hidden folders, but instead
contain a file that holds a CSID (whatever that stands for - but it is a
length of code that performs some predetermined functionality). As soon as
windows sees a folder with that CSID in it, it does not show the folder to
you. The space is allegedly not recovered when it is required for something
else.

All jpegs/gifs that appear in your browser appear to be stored in hidden
folders. You can only get rid of them properly by overwriting unused
portions of your hdd. That's why programs like "Eraser" are necessary.

This is how police forensics recover those pornographic images that you
thought you had deleted. As noted above, there are programs available that
will shred these files, but as you can't see the folders, you can't easily
verify that these programs actually work.


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