Re: This road pricing scam

At 18:54:37 on 10/03/2007, tim..... delighted uk.legal by announcing:


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At 17:17:04 on 10/03/2007, Nick delighted uk.legal by announcing:

Cynic wrote:
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:18:22 +0000, Nick <Nick@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You appear to creating a straw man argument - If the device
cannot receive GPS at all times it has failed therefore will
need to be investigated. Hence all devices will need to be
investigated and the scheme won't work. The truth is that the
device would not need a continual GPS fix it would only need
enough information to estimate where the car had been.
Additionally wireless cell location finding could be used as a
backup.

About 25% of my friends do not get a cellphone signal in their
house. Therefore a car parked all day in their garage would
provide the same information as a car that has done a 300 mile
round trip with its radios jammed or blocked, and no way to tell
the difference. It is far from being a strawman argument.


Yes but we have discussed how cars without working monitoring
devices could be spotted. So a driver who was spotted 150 miles
from home, whose decice didn't report any intermediate GPS
readings or attach to any wireless cells would clearly and
deliberately be traveling without a working device and hence
could reasonably face a serious punishment.

I have also proposed external, automatic ways of spotting cars
without working devices so that it would be extremely unlikely
that a normal driver would be able to travel 300 miles without
being spotted.

You seem to be more intent on denying the validity of the argument
because you don't want it to happen rather than a serious doubt
that it could be achieved technically.

Tachographs in lorries have been relatively successful and they
are almost from the stoneage compared to what is available now.

Exactly. They are not packages of sophisticated electronics which
rely on wireless signals that can be easily blocked or suffer
software problems. They are fairly simple mechanical devices.

But as has been pointed out earlier, people will only
circumvent the system if they don't like it. Many lorry
drivers actually like having a taco, it stops their bosses
from making then work stupid hours.

What about fajitas?
.

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