Re: violent porn

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:56:41 +0100, "Harry The Horse"
<HarryAtTheStable@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Alex Heney wrote:

I can understand the argument against violent porn, in that at the
levels being talked of, it does involve depiction of acts that are
illegal in themselves *and* which involve significant harm to those
involved.

You do realise that what is being talked about is in the most part simulated
acts, not real acts. Simulating a strangulation is no more illegal than
acting a murder is illegal.


It is only talking about realistic depictions.

And I think the main reason for including simulations is to make it so
that it doesn't have to be proved that the violence was real.


And I do believe that any such imagery, outside of news reporting,
probably *should* be illegal.

Why? The government admits that there is little evidence to suggest that
such material causes crime or damage;

Because people are harmed in the making of it, if it *is* real.


and there are plenty of devotees of
S&M role play who will testify that no serious damage is done to consenting
participants of such acts.

But those are not the subject of these proposals.

They are talking about *serious* violence.

Well beyond the ABH level that is enough to negate consent in most
cases.

The fact that some sexual practices 'disgust'
middle England is a pretty lame excuse.

It is no sort of excuse at all.

I said that was why they are bringing in these laws. Not that I think
it is a valid reason for doing so.


But the bestiality and necrophilia are a *lot* more questionable, as
it is hard to see how anybody is done any harm by them.

The animal cannot consent to being abused. I can see a rather stronger case
for banning the images of bestiality than for simulated scenes of sexual
violence between consenting adults.


I have never seen any evidence that suggests the animals are being
abused. Not that I have taken significant interest, so I could well be
wrong.
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