Re: British 'house arrest' for those not wanting ID card.




Palindr☻me wrote:
Dave the exTrailer wrote:
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:01:26 GMT, <donot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


"Palindr?me" <me9@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I do rather mind having my fingerprints/DNA/whatever on the police
computers - not that I have anything to hide, at present.

But you don't have a say, do you?


But if everyone refused to carry it, the whole idea would go tits up.

"Everyone" has enormous power, true. If everyone cancelled their Sky
subscription until they were reduced by half, subscriptions would fall
by half, or the company would go bust. If everyone boycotted Tescos
until they employed one deaf-dumb signer per store, the ads would be in
the papers that day.. If everyone made it clear that they wouldn't vote
for a party that was pro ID cards - no party would promote their
introduction.

But almost everyone, me included, will carry them if it becomes the law
to do so. Because we expect to be rather lonely in the dock, otherwise.

If and when the state gets to the position when almost everyone fears
the authorities, it will be too late to take back the powers that we
have given them.

Sue

The public have all the power in their hands, but they are not even
aware of the arguments. The great mass are ensconced in their home
watching their 125 Sky channels with the noise of MTV booming through
the surround sound preventing any space for thought. They read the most
popular paper being The Sun which currently edits out Blair criticism
becuase of the 'arrangement' with their boss; which is the paper which
thinks only pretty girls get raped and that physical child abuse is a
healthy way for adults to express their anger. These people swig their
Carlsbergs and gobble up their kebab and the only issue for them is not
that the governement want to know every individual physical
perculiarity of their body - but how much is it likely to cost them?
Regardless of how many 'thinking' people are fearful of the loss of
dignity, the erosion of privacy and the increasing control of the
state, they are outnumbered 20 to 1 by 'mules' who have long ago had
any sense of personal development and integrity of the self bred out of
them.
The ID card itself is in fact a cloak, they actually don't care if you
do or don't carry it around. What they want is every intimate
specification of your body so that they may control you more in the
future. Once they have this. we shall be only one tiny step away from
having a chip placed under our skin "as the cards are always getting
lost and can be copied too easily", a chip which will monitor every
move we make.
Melanie Kleins theory of 'projective identification' fully explains why
Labour have been cultivating the campaign to encourage us to phone up
and tell tales on the wrong-doings of our neighbours. They were in
denial of their own improper behaviour such as the aquiring of loans in
return for political consideration, the dodgy mortgage arrangements of
Blair and Jowell, the illegal war etc; and instead tried to deflect
attention away from themselves by getting us to concentrate on our
neighbours instead.
It's doubtful that there is anyone in the Houses of Parliament who are
mentally stable and responsible enough to protect our personal security
and privacy - and Labour as it stands are extremely untrustworthy and
dysfunctional people. The House of Lords we now discover is populated
by a percentage of crooks who obtained the position through what were
effectively 'bribes'.
A very few men have got together to force nearly 60 million people to
undergo the greatest invasion of privacy in the history of man. If we
the public accept this then we have sown the seeds of our own
destruction. One can only imagine the ways that the system will be
mis-used in the future. Inside information from the card makers,
reveals that the public will be sorted from the politicians and their
families in a time of emergency by the presense of a secret code held
in the card / chip which will allow them access to 'survival', swiftly
condemning you and me and the Sky watchers to a less certain future. If
the day came 1 or 200 years from now that the planet would have to be
vacated, the code of your chip would say whether you live or die. If
tied up to a system where America can kill individuals on earth from
space, the chip would give them the ability to exterminate anyone;
groups; or races by the simple activation of a computer programme. Am I
losing you here ?. Believe it. And the hardest step for them to take
- is now ... it all starts with the I.D. card. You will no longer be a
human. You will be a product on the shelf. Think it through. The public
do have all the power in the hands - but not for much longer. The day
will come, that even a posting like this - could mean the instant
termination of a life. Think ahead.

.



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