Re: hang the minister
- From: nick.cooper-625delete@xxxxxxxxxx
- Date: 16 Jan 2006 04:26:20 -0800
marc_CH wrote:
> In article <1137238211.63748.0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> HarryAtTheStable@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote...
>
> > It's not so much a question of 'bullying' as someone taking a
> > pragmatic view of the likely consequences if they go to trial. People
> > do admit to crimes that they have not committed. The Guildford Four
> > and Birmingham Six had their confessions beaten out of then; Strphan
> > Kisko was bullied into makiung his.
>
> This would make much more sense if you took any of this into context. Do
> you seriously think you can browbeat someone into admitting they are a
> paedophile when they are unlikely to have come into contct with the
> police ever in the past? (I recall reading that most of the Ore targets
> were 'white collar' without previous criminal histories) Maybe you do,
> of course. I sure know that I wouldn't be for caving in to that.
>
> > In the case of innocent people caught up on the Ore list, the loss of
> > reputation that will happen if a trial goes ahead will be enough to
> > persuade most to accept a caution.
>
> You talk about these 'innocent people caught up on the Ore list' quite a
> lot. just to settle the situation, how big was the Ore list and how many
> of them were innocent people?
>
> > Besides, even if you are guilty of accessing indecent images of 'children',
> > that does not necessarily mean you are a paedophile, as a child in this
> > context could be a 17 year old. Any hetereosexual man who is not aroused by
> > a picture of a naked 17 year girl is probably sexually dysfunctional.
>
> I would be *amazed* if you could ever get a conviction on the strength
> of only looking at pictures of seveteen year olds.
Why? Prosecutions have been sought against people for having pictures
of women, even though it was demonstrably proved that said women were
over 18 when they were taken. The current law can get you both ways:
If the picture is of someone over-18, but looks under, and if it's
someone who is under-18, even if they look older. Best advice to
everyone is to stick to granny porn!
.
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