Re: 34,000 a year killed by hospital blunders.

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:18:37 -0000, "Uno Hoo!"
<kevlunn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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>"AlanG" <invalid@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 18:51:12 -0000, "Uno Hoo!"
>> <kevlunn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>"AlanG" <invalid@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:51:06 -0000, "The Todal" <deadmailbox@xxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> The difference is of course what happens afterwards. A doctor
>>>> mistakenly giving a fatal dose will almost certainly be facing a
>>>> criminal charge. A recent case of a doctor doing just that shows it is
>>>> true. Now tell us when the killers of Harry Stanley are going to
>>>> answer to a court.
>>>
>>>According to the report there have been a reported total of 2,081
>>>mistaken
>>>deaths in the NHS in 12 months. The report says that many mistaken deaths
>>>are not reported and they estimate the *actual* number of mistaken deaths
>>>at
>>>34,000. Are you telling me that every one of the NHS staff responsible for
>>>the errors that killed that many people are answering for their actions in
>>>a
>>>court of law? I think not.
>>>
>> What are mistaken deaths?
>> A doctor not recognising a symptom? Not prescribing a better drug?
>> Hardly a basis for prosecution.
>>
>> I know doctors and surgeons have been prosecuted where patients have
>> died because they made an error that 'should' have been avoided. I am
>> still waiting to see the killers of Harry Stanley face a court.
>
>
>You really are a scream Alan! Talk about double standards!
>The NAO report makes it clear that they are not talking about 'deaths in
>hospitals' - but rather 'avoidable deaths in hospitals' - ie , deaths caused
>by negligence, incompetence, simple mistakes - and even by murder.

Are you saying that NHS staff have been murdering patients and the
deaths have not been investigated?

>The number of these avoidable deaths actually reported over a 12 month
>period is 2,081 !!!! The NAO claims that there is massive under-reporting
>and the actual number of avoidable deaths is probably nearer 34,000.

All unquantifiable
>
>Despite this horrendous figure, all you do is hunt around for excuses and
>justification. Contrast this with your approach to a mere handful of
>mistaken police shootings over a period of years, where you go in like an
>attack dog - snarling and salivating over the prospect of criticising the
>boys in blue. It stinks to high heaven.

You imbue me with your own characteristics.
On this particular subject I have only ever called for the police who
shoot innocents unarmed and no danger to anyone to face a court of law
the same as anyone else. I have over time also posted a number of
links to cases of other professions causing death who have faced
court. You choose to ignore those examples in your war against justice
and law.

If anything stinks to high heaven it is a corrupt home office, police
force and their apologists who destroy our system of justice. And one
of the biggest smells is coming from your direction

>
>Of course, the NHS is warm and cuddly isn't it? Staffed by sexy nurses and
>wise, caring doctors?

If you believe that then you are even stupider than I imagined.
The NHS is staffed by humans. They make errors and in some cases have
to answer for those errors in court

> Whereas the police are seen by a minority (like
>yourself) as the enemy - the hated figures of authority who have the
>temerity to tell people what to do.

I see a corrupt out of control organisation bent wholly on protecting
itself and extending it's powers without any thought of how it is
destroying our way of life.

>
>That is why you are so two-faced about these different sets of figures. It

You attempt to conflate two unlike circumstances.

>makes me sick.
>
Hopefully you will choke on your own vomit
>Kev
>

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