Re: 34,000 a year killed by hospital blunders.


"AlanG" <invalid@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 18:51:12 -0000, "Uno Hoo!"
> <kevlunn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>"AlanG" <invalid@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:51:06 -0000, "The Todal" <deadmailbox@xxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Uno Hoo!" <kevlunn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>> Medical blunders kill an estimated 34,000 hospital patients a year,
>>>>> according to a report.
>>>>> Almost 1 million incidents and lapses in patient care were recorded in
>>>>> the
>>>>> latest survey of National Health Service Standards.
>>> snip
>>>>> Can anyone explain this apparent dichotomy? If armed police
>>>>> mistakenly
>>>>> kill a mere handful of people over a period of years - this is
>>>>> outrageous
>>>>> and indicative of a service out of control. But the NHS can mistakenly
>>>>> kill 34,000 patients a year - and hardly anyone blinks an
>>>>> eyelid!!!!!!!!!!! Look at that figure again: 34,0000 !!
>>>>
>>>>People are afraid of the police. They don't want to be beaten up, or
>>>>framed,
>>>>or shot dead. People aren't afraid of NHS employees. In fact, they often
>>>>make a point of assaulting NHS staff just to show who's boss.
>>>>
>>>>You make a valid point of course - we should not be too outraged by a
>>>>death,
>>>>so long as the lessons are learned. To shoot dead an innocent man is no
>>>>more
>>>>dreadful than to inject him with a lethal dose of a powerful drug
>>>>because
>>>>you've miscalculated the amount.
>>>
>>> The difference is of course what happens afterwards. A doctor
>>> mistakenly giving a fatal dose will almost certainly be facing a
>>> criminal charge. A recent case of a doctor doing just that shows it is
>>> true. Now tell us when the killers of Harry Stanley are going to
>>> answer to a court.
>>
>>According to the report there have been a reported total of 2,081
>>mistaken
>>deaths in the NHS in 12 months. The report says that many mistaken deaths
>>are not reported and they estimate the *actual* number of mistaken deaths
>>at
>>34,000. Are you telling me that every one of the NHS staff responsible for
>>the errors that killed that many people are answering for their actions in
>>a
>>court of law? I think not.
>>
> What are mistaken deaths?
> A doctor not recognising a symptom? Not prescribing a better drug?
> Hardly a basis for prosecution.
>
> I know doctors and surgeons have been prosecuted where patients have
> died because they made an error that 'should' have been avoided. I am
> still waiting to see the killers of Harry Stanley face a court.


You really are a scream Alan! Talk about double standards!
The NAO report makes it clear that they are not talking about 'deaths in
hospitals' - but rather 'avoidable deaths in hospitals' - ie , deaths caused
by negligence, incompetence, simple mistakes - and even by murder.
The number of these avoidable deaths actually reported over a 12 month
period is 2,081 !!!! The NAO claims that there is massive under-reporting
and the actual number of avoidable deaths is probably nearer 34,000.

Despite this horrendous figure, all you do is hunt around for excuses and
justification. Contrast this with your approach to a mere handful of
mistaken police shootings over a period of years, where you go in like an
attack dog - snarling and salivating over the prospect of criticising the
boys in blue. It stinks to high heaven.

Of course, the NHS is warm and cuddly isn't it? Staffed by sexy nurses and
wise, caring doctors? Whereas the police are seen by a minority (like
yourself) as the enemy - the hated figures of authority who have the
temerity to tell people what to do.

That is why you are so two-faced about these different sets of figures. It
makes me sick.

Kev


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