Re: Shot man's Visa had expired



On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:38:38 +0200, "tim \(moved to sweden\)"
<tim_in_sweden2005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>"bigbrian" <harry8611@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:qe4ie1dmengdkq6uf9dj4689ih39pi0pj4@xxxxxxxxxx
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:11:06 +0100, bigbrian <harry8611@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13396219,00.html
>>>
>>>"The student visa of the Brazilian man shot dead by anti-terror police
>>>last week expired two years ago, it has emerged.
>>>
>>>Authorities have been trying to work out why Jean Charles de Menezes
>>>ran away from police when he was challenged at Stockwell Tube station.
>>>
>>>A spokeswoman for the Home Office also revealed that Mr de Menezes had
>>>a stamp in his passport apparently granting him indefinite leave to
>>>remain in the UK.
>>>
>>>But the stamp was "not one that was in use by the Immigration and
>>>Nationality Directorate".
>>>
>>>The carefully-worded statement appeared to imply that the stamp had
>>>been a forgery"
>>>
>>>Brian
>>>
>>
>> I should have added....
>>
>> Doubtless it won't take long for the claims to surface that "they've
>> had the best part of a week to put a forged stamp in his passport"
>
>I don't get this story at all (not suggesting that what Brian
>has poted is wrong, I've just heard it on the radio).
>
>But I can't work out if it was started as a "this is why he ran"
>explanation, or as a crass attempt to blame the victim.

Bit of both, probably, but the article quoted above does put it in the
context of "authorities have been trying to work out why Jean Charles
de Menezes ran away from police when he was challenged at Stockwell
Tube station".

I notice that they still haven't confirmed that the challenge
specifically *included* identifiying themselves as police. That would
be implicit in explaining away his fleeing from people he though might
arrest him because he was an illegal immigrant, but less of a credible
explanation if they did not, in fact, identify themselves as police
officers

Brian

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