Re: advertising for jobs on radio

tony wrote:
> Exactly.
>
> They should be more democratic, general public from all sides of
> argument need to be empowered in making legistlation. Opinions should
> be taken into consideration, after all don't we all pay into this
> burocrasy...

Ummm.....it is.
You've just described a green paper.

CS2 had its green paper in 1998. Something like 1600 replies were all that
was received - when the people affected by CSA, including partners, was
probably somewhere well over 2 million.
Some may be perfectly happy with the ideas expressed. Some may just not want
to bother - few green papers attract a massive response.


>
> And then to be hammered by it, without any input or say in the
> matter. They will see you lose a job and be trapped on benifit, as
> they can't/won't compromise.

There will often be a wide range of responses to a green paper. Can't
implement all ideas, some will be mutually exclusive with others.


>
> Yeah we know, it's the legistlation... & so was the poletax.

And look how well its replacement has turned out.
I'm pretty sure most councils won't have doubled the wages of their staff in
the last 7 years, I've not heard of people saying how much more services are
now run by their council than 7 years ago.
Yet mine isn't the only area where council tax has more than doubled in that
time.


>
> Difference being, were not organised, we are discriminated against,
> dis-enfranchised, and treated like criminals!
>

People had a chance before each of the major legislations went through to
comment.
Most of the changes to CS1 were as a result of people making their
unhappiness felt. Assessments in 1993 were brutal compared to today for many
people.


> For some reason we just continue to take it lying down, if we
> complain (even rightly) then were deadbeats, if we protest in any
> way, we are looked on with comtempt.

Or we actually get something changed.
But many people won't take any action. They won't write or visit MP, they
won't respond to consultation papers, they won't supply ideas to MPs or
committees.



>
> I don't feel we are included in a balanced way,

How do you mean balanced?
We tend to be people who have had problems with the CSA. You tend to find
people who don't have problems usually don't do anything about it.


A woman from the CSA
> called once to ask what I thought of the service, the questionare was
> presented with closed questions that did not encourage and pertanant
> exchange of information.

Thats for statistical analysis, not for ideas to improve the service.
One of the more common types of questionairre.

And either they are 'losing/never asking' those who don't like the service,
or a large percentage are happy with the service provided.
Though I daresay the staff will pick up a 12 inch thick file, full of
disasters and mistakes, and decide they'll skip that one for questionairre.


> Her response was on the way I was treated, I don't have a box for
> that.
> She could not take comments reguarding customer service, etc. WE were
> quite polite as I remember, but she had to end the call as I didn't
> fit into the one size fits all box. I doubt that your opinions can
> even be put down, if you think outside the box.
>

Then the opinions need to be made known in a different way, to different
people.

Martin <><
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> "Martin Davies" <mart2306@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uQTCf.29182$mu.7517@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sorry, what is opinion pole?
>> There is a forum, they have a few stakeholders for meetings
>> occasionally. Certain organisations are stakeholders.
>> The public in general don't have much input beyond letters.
>>
>> Martin <><
>>
>> tony wrote:
>>> It doesn't feel like we can affect the fairness of the agency from
>>> where I'm sitting.
>>> There doesn't even seem to be a balanced opinion pole, and little by
>>> means of accesable forum for a balanced debate.
>>>
>>> "Martin Davies" <mart2306@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:YsSCf.29171$mu.313@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> They could change some customer service things. Be nice on the
>>>> phone rather than horrible.
>>>> Though such things as telling someone they are unlikely to get any
>>>> maintenance soon, or asking someone to pay £15K arrears - there's a
>>>> limit to how far being nice actually helps.
>>>>
>>>> Some of the best staff I ever came across dealt with the CSA in
>>>> their personal lives too. Either as clients themselves, or
>>>> partners of clients. One thing they would lose the power to do is
>>>> affect legislation. You and I have more power to do that than they
>>>> do. Martin <><
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> tony wrote:
>>>>> Add was played on Key 103 overheard it when I was in the
>>>>> manchester area. I have heard people say that they want to know
>>>>> whats on the inside of the CSA. Probably in the hope they could
>>>>> effect change? I can't see how they would do that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Martin Davies" <mart2306@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:8tQCf.206535$D47.11072@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Martin Davies wrote:
>>>>>>> tony wrote:
>>>>>>>> A well known radio station in Manchester is advertising for
>>>>>>>> workers in Manchester, I didn't realise that there was a CSA
>>>>>>>> centre in Manchester.
>>>>>>>> Iv'e got word that a lot of people want to infiltrate this
>>>>>>>> organisation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They might be recruiting for an out-station or a new place to
>>>>>>> deal with backlogs.
>>>>>>> Or simply because they have a high turnover of staff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martin <><
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thinking about it, can't think why a lot of people would want to
>>>>>> infiltrate them.
>>>>>> Just checked, they aren't advertising locally that I can see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin <><
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