Re: After some advice
- From: "Danielle" <danielleb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:29:55 +0100
"Martin Davies" <mart2306@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Danielle" <danielleb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "Martin Davies" <mart2306@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> "Danielle" <danielleb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> >
> >> > "Martin Davies" <mart2306@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> >> "Danielle" <danielleb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:5b2dnQHYqr19o6XeRVnyjw@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > My partner could be starting work, take home pay would be £2123.00
> > per
> >> >> > month, he is currently on old scheme so will pay 43% of his wages,
> >> >> > he
> >> > has
> >> >> > some arrears.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have worked his CSA payments out to be around £912 per month,
have
> > I
> >> >> > worked this out right? Would appreciate someone else's input.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > TIA
> >> >> >
> >> >> > D x
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Depends on the housing costs, maintenance requirement figure and any
> > kids
> >> >> you have between you. Oh, and shared care too.
> >> >> Higher assessable income will often use the alternate formula, which
> > uses
> >> >> 15%, 20% or 25% of extra assessable income over and above double the
> >> >> maintenance requirement.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would expect someone on that level of take home pay, unless they
had
> >> >> mortgage very high, would pay less than 30% of net income. Quite a
bit
> >> > less.
> >> >> Though arrears repayment adds to the total paid out, at least thats
> >> > somewhat
> >> >> negotiable.
> >> >>
> >> >> Martin <><
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for all the advice, do you think it could be the amount I
think
> > it
> >> > is
> >> > or less?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I would expect less.
> >> But a lot does depend on the figures of housing costs, shared care,
> >> maintenance requirement and kids between you.
> >> If your housing costs were reasonable for that level of income, I'd
> >> expect
> >> 20% - 25% at most for the assessment. No housing costs would be a
higher
> >> assessment, but applying the alternate formula on a much higher amount
of
> >> assessable income.
> >> Certainly on that level of income it would be likely the assessment was
> > more
> >> than the maintenance requirement unless there were several kids to pay
> > for.
> >>
> >> As an example.
> >>
> >> Maintenance requirement £100
> >> Housing costs £500 a month
> >> 1 child to pay for.
> >>
> >> Net income £489 a week.Housing costs £115 a week.
> >> Personal allowance £55 (its higher I think but haven't got the full
rates
> > to
> >> hand).
> >>
> >> Exempt income would be personal allowance plus housing costs, total
£170
> >> a
> >> week.
> >> Knock that from the net income to get assessable income of £319.
> >> Deduct double the maintenance requirement (so deduct £200), that leaves
> > £119
> >> to use the alternate formula on.
> >> Take 15% of that, thats the additional amount for assessment, add that
to
> >> the maintenance requirement and thats the total assessment. £117.85 a
> > week,
> >> which is just over 24%.
> >>
> >> Fiddle about with the figures, use 20% for 2 kids and 25% for 3 or
more.
> > But
> >> the principles are the same.
> >> On the plus side, if income goes up or housing costs decrease with that
> > sort
> >> of assessment, rate of change in assessment is small - being just 15% -
> > 25%
> >> of the change.
> >> Thats also a bad thing if income goes down or housing costs increase.
> >>
> >> Martin <><
> >>
> >>
> >
> > My partner has two children and as far as we know his ex lives with her
> > new
> > partner, we don't see the children. I have a son who lives with us and
we
> > rent our home. I'm not sure what is taken into account on the old
scheme,
> > I
> > remember some mention of a protected income because I have a son and my
> > partner will be supporting us. Its all really confusing, our outgoings
are
> > quite high because of a couple of debts. I want to make sure we are ok
and
> > my partner isn't just working to pay CSA, bills and debts.
> >
> > I believe every parent should pay for their children, but within reason.
> > CSA
> > calculations are way too high but what can I do! Its unfair my partner
> > doesn't have contact with his children but he is one of many ...
> >
> >
>
> Rent is allowed in full. Though with that level of income, you and the
child
> won't make any difference to the payments.
> Play around with the example I gave, putting your rent in as housing costs
> and using 20% for the alternate formula. That will give a rough estimate
of
> what the assessment will be.
>
> Martin <><
>
>
We sat down last night and looked at previous payments and it worked out his
arrears were 10% of his actual payment. So we worked it out like that and it
seems a more reasonable payment, just hope its true. Guess we will find out
in the next month or so ...
Thanks again
D xx
.
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