Re: Mink eradication proposed



On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:33:04 +0000, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <3q0jp41hj0ifh5bdeok8129u9iueaod5vc@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:39:29 +0000, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <en4hp4ts9sfs11kdaf22g28gur2d31i5lf@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:04:57 +0000, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <mq7ep41vm6gcccransg3cjr2vq0tgbm6ge@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:49:39 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
<rjseago@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


The extinction always follows exposure o the pox virus.

Which has been in the red squirrel population long before greys came
along.

I would be grateful if you would produce your evidence that the current
SQPV "has been in the red squirrel population long before greys came
along".

I have presented a reference here already which says that in 40
districts in England pox-virus was in red squirrels before greys were
in contacts with them.

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that this wasn't SQPV which
was identified in 1983. To say that is just happened to arrive the
moment it was identified is like saying America didn't exist before it
was discovered.

Does the author of the book claim that the pox in the 40 districts is
identical to the present-day pox or is this just your assumption?

It seems to be your assumption that it's not.

I'm not making an assumption. Unlike you, I like to see some evidence
before I jump to conclusions.

No you don't. You jump to conclusions all the tine without evidence.
And there's no evidence that grey squirrels are transmitting SQPV to
reds.


Viruses are not only very numerous, many of them also exist in a great
many different strains, some of which are far more virulent than others,
as you may have gathered if you have read about avian flu, or even human
flu where the vaccine given each year has to be changed for the
following year. It is therefore impossible to be certain, without
"typing" the virus which occurred then and the virus that occurs now,
that they are the same virus let alone the same strain of a single
virus.

So in 1983 when SQPV was identified the previous strain miraculously
died out and the new strain took its place?

You're a hoot, Malcolm and a duff scientist.


Of course, if you have an agenda which demands that you publish
everything that favours the grey squirrel and nothing that favours the
red, you will jump to the conclusion that it is the same virus and
strain without stopping to consider any evidence whatsoever.

see above.


Fortunately, this kind of 2 + 2 = 5 is extremely easy to spot and means
that anyone leaping to such conclusions is going to be rightly
criticised.

You're the five man, Malcolm.


Angus Macmillan
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All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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