Re: RSPB "APRIL FOOL" ON R4 TODAY



On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:41:30 +0100, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <3k48v310fajncujnsrhhgge3nj234ug1vd@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:14:14 +0100, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <4f894b282erjseago@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Robert Seago
<rjseago@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
In article <1207041215.677.0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
BAC <casswalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Blimey - (some) RSPB staff have a sense of humour!
Spoilsport, I was waiting for someone to start invoking nazis.

LOL!!


Not to disappoint you:

Nazi Conservationists

You have an obsession with the nazis.

Like the Nazi thugs were to human ethnics in the 1930s,
conservationists are to grey squirrels in the 21 century. In a frenzy
of intolerance they persecute and destroy those who are native by
birth but condemned by origin.

You have an obsession with the nazis.

Thousands of grey squirrels are being slaughtered across the UK in a
campaign of hate directed at these small friendly and amusing rodents
in the belief that they are infecting "native" red squirrels with
squirrel-pox virus known as SQPV.

They are infecting the red squirrels, which are native, not "native". If
you think they are not infecting the reds and that the reds are not
native, then please produce your evidence.

However, a recent incidence of pox
infection on the Isle of Anglesey in Wales has largely undermined the
conservationists' claims.

Only in your eyes.

Anglesey has two populations of red squirrels, one of which is in
Mvnydd Llwydiarth forest at Pentraeth where, according to the Forestry
Commission,
"Red squirrels were close to extinction within Mynydd Llwydiarth in
the late 1990s. The forest contained significant numbers of grey
squirrels, which were competing with the remaining red squirrels.
However, once the grey squirrels were trapped and removed, the red
squirrel population responded very positively, and by 2002, there were
almost 100 adult red squirrels living in and around the forest". So,
we have it on good authority that grey squirrels have been
exterminated and are no longer present in the vicinity.

However, in February 2008 two red squirrels from this location were
found to have a pox infection that was originally thought to be SQPV
but which preliminarily tested negative, even although the symptoms
were exactly the same. This means that there must be an endemic pox
virus within the red squirrel population that has absolutely nothing
to do with grey squirrels, has never affected grey squirrels, and is
not being carried by grey squirrels.

Please produce your evidence that it is "endemic". That is, assuming you
realise what you mean by "endemic".

This is no surprise, as red
squirrels were infected in 40 districts in England where greys had
never reached in the early part of the last century.

So what were they infected with? Do you know? Or are you merely
speculating?

A point
conveniently ignored by the so-called conservationists.

Wrong.

It is clear that the red squirrel population is vulnerable to a pox
virus irrespective of what name it is given. It appears when the
population density increases, so does the incidence of disease.

This is your speculation, nothing more.

This
is not new. red squirrel populations have fluctuated wildly due to
disease and persecution in the past.

What disease? Please specify.

Grey squirrels cannot be the cause of a disease that is endemic in
reds

Please produce your evidence that there is a disease "endemic in reds".

but may merely add to an existing infection reservoir in the
red's population through adding to the overall squirrel population
density in a given location.

Oh dear :-((

Please produce your evidence that density is linked to disease in
squirrels. It may help you to produce an answer if you look at the
relative densities of grey and red squirrels in different habitats and
reflect on which is has the higher density, grey or red.

It is as outrageous as it is grossly unfair to slaughter thousands of
grey squirrels

Before you can make that claim, you have to justify your various
statements above. Can you?

Killing one group of individuals to benefit another, was the trait of
the Nazis.

Your nazi obsession coming to the fore, again :-(


Sorry Malcolm, I'm too busy just now answering and undermining fake
conservationists even more important than you thick you are.

Perhaps I meant "think" and thick just slipped out :-))

Have you been booted out of SNH yet or are you still screwing the
system?

If I get time in the next day or so I'll answer your points.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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