Re: Unambiguous definition?

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:25:07 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
<rjseago@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <23kcp3ps6oonjqk76gugh3o0l9aq7urob5@xxxxxxx>,
<amacmil304@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:52:59 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
<rjseago@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <u8bap31d2epeari5g71e801i0h3sf3nri2@xxxxxxx>,
<amacmil304@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Anyone care to give an unambiguous definition of "native species"?


Conventionally, species native to the UK are regarded as those that
have arrived here since the last ice age without human assistance.

This is the generally accepted convention.

The rationale behind it, and the reason that I concur with it is that,
the heritage in Britain that we have is composed of species which have
been selected for our environment, that is our climates, soils and land
use.

I thought that's what it might be . So what about those (re)introduced
from foreign countries by so-called conservationists with different
climates, soils and land use? Red squirrel and beavers for instance.

If something is extinct there is no choice.

But they're not really extinct, are they. They're just not present
where you want them. If I was as daft as the fake conservationists I
could claim that red squirrels were extinct in my garden.


I am still happy to see White tailed eagles and Red kites. I would be happy to see Beavers.
Introductions are usually done with care to matching up the DNA as well as
possible.


Happiness has got nothing to do with it.



Many species which we love such as Rabbit, Brown Rat, Brown Hare,
Fallow deer etc. do not fall into this category, and few
conservationists would wish to eradicate these species, with the
possible exception of the Brown Rat in some cases.

You don't "love" them if you kill them.

That does not follow.

For example I kill the odd fish for the pot but I love them.

To eat, obviously; but not as living beings.





Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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