Re: At least they can't blame the grey squirrels

In message <hqvrj3prvd3qul8nv96jdrvbmej7lrf6rk@xxxxxxx>, amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:37:25 +0000, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <hnjrj3tcgtmqb4hq57fti0njb2ea7c4715@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:20:17 +0000, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <9ujqj31sfo5r8akamikc4c9bg3f9usnuha@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:38:00 +0000, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


You, who admit to not being an "expert" in anything, are rejecting
scientific and mathematical evidence which you either still don't
understand because you don't have the necessary knowledge and can't
understand what you are being told (just possible), or which you have
decided to reject regardless of what you are told because your
anti-conservation obsession won't let you accept it (highly probable).


Where did I ever "admit to not being an expert in anything"?

How about this exchange from earlier this year:

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MAO
I had not realised you were an expert in matters concerning the
correct application of the scientific method.

AM
I don't claim to be an expert in anything.

MAO
But you are expert in something, nevertheless. Aren't you?

AM
I don't claim to be an expert in anything.
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So, are you or are you not an expert in anything? You seem to be
confused about it.


Not confused in the slightest.

I have never admitted to not being an expert in anything.

It's you who is confused.


Is this URL, in your view, "garbage"?

http://www.squirrelweb.co.uk/articles/census.php


Absolutely. It is based on assumptions and estimates and presumptions.


What the site has are details of tried, tested and proven methodologies
for discovering the numbers of squirrels, producing samples and
estimates which can be rigorously tested with statistical tests that
have been written by mathematicians whose books and computer programmes
are used by scientists, not just biologists, across the world. For you
to call this "garbage" is one of the most ludicrous claims you've ever
made.

It is merely a method of estimation based on sightings which may or
may not be correct.


And if you say it is, do you think there is a single person involved in
squirrel monitoring who cares a fig what you think of it, or that what
you think of it will make the slightest difference to anything at all,
ever?

Temper, Malcolm. You're coming across as showing annoyance.

No, Angus, I'm just reminding you that it doesn't matter what you think
because it won't make any difference.


So you've said before.


I am only one of many people who are against the killing of grey
squirrels.

So what?

So it's not just me.


Do all the "many people" agree with your dismissing out of hand (with
cries of "garbage") methodologies that are used across the world and
not just for monitoring squirrels but for monitoring a vast array of
different animals, birds, insects and plants? Or have they got the
intelligence to realise that your description of the methodologies and
the results as "garbage" is itself "garbage"?

Many will have the intelligence to know that these counting methods
are inaccurate.

I claim the prize. Angus does believe that there are mathematicians and statisticians who are prepared to put their names to inaccurate methodology and risk reputation and ridicule from their peers.



Your mind is as closed as it has ever been. Your inability to accept
what you've read on that website is very usefully revealing of your
mindset and the obsession behind it.


--
Malcolm Kane
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