Re: Send this to the entire world!

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:02:06 +0200, "Philip Hart" <auldphartr@xxxxxxx>
wrote:


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Philip H. Hart wrote:
amacmil304@xxxxxxx wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:19:42 +0100, Malcolm Kane
<malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In message <9jfhe2tjkt9im7sht6cu8bvmrvr78nk4k9@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:17:03 +0100, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <mtbge256uaoun45219mjmm2trrvniv4i71@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On 20 Aug 2006 02:23:14 -0700, "Philip H. Hart"
<auldphart@xxxxxxx>
wrote:


amacmil304@xxxxxxx wrote:
On 19 Aug 2006 08:21:38 -0700, "Philip H. Hart"
<auldphart@xxxxxxx>
wrote:


amacmil304@xxxxxxx wrote:
Chinese fur farms Hebei Province

[...]

In how many past posts have you categorically stated that you
do not
campaign against farming.

I have never opposed legitimate farming.

Is it not equally legitimate to:
A. Keep a chicken in a tiny cage to obtain eggs,
B. Keep a calf in a tiny, unlit hovel to obtain its flesh
C. Keep a mink in a cage to obtain its fur

What difference does it make whether these practices are carried
out
inside or outside the UK. Chinese farmers are not breaking the
Chinese
laws any more than British farmers are breaking UK law.


There are plenty of AR Groups campaigning against this at present
and
laws in the UK have been changed. I concentrate on the killing of
wildlife. If everyone campaigned on everything nothing would get
done.

So what has your campaign achieved, Angus?

How many deer are not being killed because of your campaign?
How many grey squirrels are not being killed because of your
campaign?
How many signal crayfish are not being killed because of your
campaign?
How many ruddy ducks are not being killed because of your camapign?
How many additional foxes are now being killed because you
supported the
campaign to stop fox hunting with dogs?

It's not a question of what a single campaign achieves. It's a
question of, with others, changing public opinion about the killing
of
wildlife and exposing those who participate in such deeds.

The ban on hunting with hounds was not achieved by any one
organisation. It was the fruits of thousands of AR activists
opposing
hunting at every step of the way. One soldier doesn't win a battle.


I just heard today the Dumfriesshire Hunt has reformed and intends to
begin hunting within the law on September 2nd.


Thanks, Malcolm. I'll pass that on to the appropriate people.

Meanwhile, perhaps you can tell us why you are campaigning against
farming practices in China, but not against equally nasty farming
practices in Europe. Pass that on to the appropriate people.

Haven't you gone a bit coy suddenly, Anguish? Cat got your tongue? Or
was the question going to show up your imperfect logic if you answered
it?

I guess it was the latter.



Neither.

The video shows the skinning of animals alive. Do you know of any
activities like this in the UK or Western Europe?



Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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