Re: Zero avian 'flu risk from wild birds

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:41:26 +0100, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <4453d655$0$297$7a628cd7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, John Morgan
<shirley.yu@xxxxxxx> writes

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In article <4452f6c3$0$294$7a628cd7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, John Morgan
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In article <1146233081.39699.0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, BAC
<casswalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes

Given the history, I can well understand the sceptical perspective
from
which you view Angus's activities and remarks.

Yes, it would be nice if one could believe his claims, but sadly so
many
of them are based on incomplete knowledge, deliberately leave out
important information or are just plain lies :-((

Hardly surprising, then, that the most recent claims concerning safety
aspects of visiting bird reserves should be repeated ad infinitum. Almost
as
if he's gearing himself up for a career in politics - perhaps Iranian
politics :-((

Yes, the parrot syndrome, or of course copied from his heroes the nazis.
Repeat a lie often enough, etc., etc.

It all depends on the quality of the lie.

Something completely idiotic, let's say, 'wildfowl at Loch Leven are
infected with non-symptomatic avian 'flu and crypto-nazis will transfer this
to tens of thousands of children by causing the birds to defecate in the
observation hides', is obviously going attract gales of laughter no matter
how many times someone repeats it.

LOL!

I think one would have to question the motives/judgement/sanity (delete
as appropriate) of someone like that, the more especially as he is now
trying to link the outbreak of the H7N3 strain of avian flu in poultry
in Norfolk with N5N1. Not even the tabloids have indulged in such
blatantly ridiculous scaremongering as that, presumably because they
have more sense and actually know that the two are not in any way
connected.


Of course they're not connected. But what I'm pointing out is that
bird flu can show its face at any time and in the Norfolk outbreak
there was no hint of it a few days ago.

The unexpected can happen at any time. Staying away from birds
reserves in an area where the infection has been identified is a
prudent suggestion.

It is acknowledged that if the virus mutates then it could kill
10,000 school children. That was announced last week. If that's not
a risk I don't know what is.

Experts, fear the virus could mutate at some point in the future, and
in its new form trigger a flu pandemic, potentially putting millions
of human lives at risk.

The next outbreak could be H5N1 from an infected bird from a reserve
which was the landing site for migratory birds from infected areas
abroad.

I asked you if you knew the were no H5N1 infected birds on reserves
and it is noted you declined to answer :-(

So what's your problem?

The bird reserves won't be any the worse for lack of humans, will
they? More space and peace and quiet for birds I would say.

Your opposition to my suggestion is all about exploiting birds and
coining in money :-(


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk
.

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