Re: Red Squirrels - Commonest in the world

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:19:28 +0000, Malcolm Kane
<malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>In message <nlaqt15utjhernmj6gm4h9dl8n1t02n7oq@xxxxxxx>,
>amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
>>On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:37:37 +0000, Malcolm Kane
>><malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <h55qt1ln1nrblu2hj1se8hd28oaa6bll2m@xxxxxxx>,
>>>amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
>>>>On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:15:41 +0000, Malcolm
>>>><Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In article <0vrpt198ifj192p4ttof6s4cht9e8dds09@xxxxxxx>,
>>>>>amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
>>>>>>On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:22:39 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>><Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article <dl2pt1h7l307f7cb78pl3c6g7vq846q71k@xxxxxxx>,
>>>>>>>amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Guess who's destroying the red squirrels' habitat in the UK?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-44-2012976-44,00.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The fake conservationistst who cut down conifers and plant broadleafs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You're being very selective in your comments, Angus, as you always are.
>>>>>>>You can't say you don't know about the extensive programme by genuine
>>>>>>>conservationists (the only sort) to try and restore the Caledonian pine
>>>>>>>forest as you have commented on it in the past. This is ideal Red
>>>>>>>Squirrel habitat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So has the red population increased as a result?
>>>>>>
>>>>>The project has only just got under way, so it needs time. Even you
>>>>>ought to know how long it takes trees to grow. Hence the urgency in
>>>>>preventing the Scottish red squirrel population from dying out because
>>>>>of the invading greys.
>>>>
>>>>So it's got no bearing on the red population. It's more about
>>>>bolstering the identity crisis of Scottishness :-(
>>>
>>>Angus do you never worry about demeaning your self by pretending to be
>>>so thick? Of course it does. However it is long term.
>>
>>The Caledonian forest was never re-planted to benefit red squirrels.
>
>Strange Angus you never queried the fact when Malcolm first mentioned
>it. Why do you suppose it is being recreated then?
>

See my reply to Malcolm O

>>
>>>
>>>By the way do a little bit of research on reds and conifers and I think
>>>you will find that they are mainly important because the reds can
>>>utilise them in a way greys can't.
>>
>>And the fake conservationists like the Woodland Trust cut them down.
>
>Angus you again deliberately ignore the point. You are whining on about
>the need for conifers. The need would be much less if there were no
>greys. The conifers are mainly important because of the greys. With
>out the greys they are quite happy with mixed woodland and even broad
>leaf woods. (but admittedly not as happy).

But there are greys.


>
>As a fake you conveniently ignore this as it doesn't fit in with your
>preconceived ideas.

No.

>
>
>>
>>> Yes some conifers are needed in red
>>>habitat but reds can and do make use of broad leafed woodland if there
>>>are no greys. The importance of conifers are mainly as an additional
>>>protection against the incursion of greys into red areas.
>>>
>>
>>And the fake conservationists like the Woodland Trust cut them down.
>
>Angus do try to get a grip. Conservationists can remove conifers as
>they aren't essential to reds. Secondly they aren't removing them where
>reds are they are removing them in areas where they are damaging other
>wildlife. Why do you always pretend you are so thick you don't
>understand. Nobody is likely to be fooled by your over simplifications.
>Sadly for you.

Reds could expand or be introduced if suitable habitats were left
alone.

>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Doubtless, in your ignorance, you will think it should happen instantly,
>>>>>just as you appeared to think puffins would return to Ailsa Craig and
>>>>>Lundy the moment the last rat disappeared. Fortunately, the genuine
>>>>>conservationists involved know more about such things than a fake like
>>>>>you.
>>>>
>>>>No Malcolm. The fakes are the so-called conservationists that killed
>>>>the rats that ate the rabbits on the tourist venue that Landmark
>>>>built. That's real ignorance.
>>>
>>>You are showing real ignorance Angus. The problem is a reduction in the
>>>rabbit population not an increase. Do you have any evidence of rats
>>>taking rabbits as prey. I can't find a single reference to rabbits as a
>>>prey for rats.
>>
>>You're showing yours. Dr Thick referred to an October press release
>>showing that to be the case. Look it up.
>
>I will.

Good


Angus Macmillan
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