Re: Here's someone on our side :o)

Ian <ian@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profit

for a more balanced view.

I fail to see how looking up a Wikipedia article is going to help you
understand what I mean when I say that I don't believe business has any
right or stake in education.

I was rather hoping it might help you understand what profit meant ;-)

"Profit" has several different meanings. The one I am interested in was
pretty clearly indicated, and also a pretty standard usage. None of the
other usages, whether they're from Matthew, Shakespeare or anywhere else
have any bearing on the matter.

The fact is you are getting paid so you have a financial interest - unless
you do it for free I suppose.

Of course I have a financial interest. I also have two feet and one
liver, but all these facts are equally and utterly irrelevant and I'm
amazed that you think you can make some kind of point by saying so.

Your profit margin is your personal expenses taken from your take home
pay. You have a service level agreement with your employer in the form
of a contract which is not much different from the way I have contracts
with customers.

This is just nonsense. You can't take one model of contractual
relationship and apply it willy-nilly to every other.

I can and I have. Its perfectly reasonable, it just appears to disturb
your perspective on the world. That's cool, its a pluralist society.

Except it's nonsense. Neither in language, nor law, nor commonsense, nor
business practice, nor in any other way at all, can the relations
between employer and employer be understood according to a model of
relations between customer and supplier.

Because business are not any*one*. Businesses are businesses, not
people.

Sole trader is a single person business. There are rather a lot of them.

Excellent. In that case the person has as much right to make demands of
education as any other person, and we can just leave the business out of
this completely.

Mostly, the teaching profession has the interests of its charges'
educations at heart. Business does not.

Businesses have the interests of employees, customers and shareholders at
heart. The teaching profession also has its own interests at heart too.

When business has the interests of education at heart, it will have the
right to a stake in education. Until then, it should be kept at a safe
distance from education policy-making and the people responsible for it.

Daniele
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