Re: Here's someone on our side :o)
- From: Ian <ian@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:29:20 +0100
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 22:48:11 +0100, D.M. Procida wrote:
Ian <ian@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If I were a headteacher, which I'm not, or responsible for any of
these things, which I'm not, I wouldn't stand for business sniffing
around education, whether around the school gates or the curriculum.
Don't you think business has a legitimate right to take an interest in
education? After all it puts up a lot of the money to make it happen.
Every*one* (i.e. every individual) has a duty to take an interest in
education. I don't think that *business* (i.e. profit-making) has any
right or stake in education whatsoever.
So you will give up your teaching salary because its profitable to you?
Any surplus you make you will give back to your school so you are a "not
for profit" individual? Come on, you can't say everyone has an interest
and then exclude anyone that makes a profit. I make a profit but I hope I
also contribute something useful to education and profit is not my sole
motive. Breaking exactly even is actually quite difficult and giving away
surpluses is not that simple either because of the need for investment in
future business. The only difference between when I was teaching and now
is that when teaching the pay check was predictable, the pension was
predictable and I wasn't directly responsible for ensuring colleagues
stayed in a job.
If you mean large corporates business that are funded by shareholders that
simply want a financial return you are actually talking about a minority
of businesses in terms of employment and given the reality of how society
works saying they have no right whatsoever in education contradicts your
every individual statement. Many share holders are individuals or in the
case of eg pension funds represent the interests of individuals.
The purpose of education should be
to educate people, and that is it.
Quite so, and education includes a balanced view of economics, how jobs
are created and sustained in the practical world and the political
perspectives that drive this. That means involving a wide range of
interests not just those that suit individuals.
If that suits business's purposes,
well, lucky business; if not, tough luck.
I think you need to be a bit more discriminating about what constitutes
legitimate business interest and what could be deemed to be illegitimate.
I would agree that there are circumstances where conflicts of interest
arise but there are also co-operative ventures. Work experience is an
obvious one.
As an employer, I want educated applicants because without them the
business will die and the people working here will then be out of work
and not paying taxes. If replicated nationwide the education system
will collapse because there will be no national wealth to pay for it.
Simply not true.
Which bit isn't true? Are you saying that if I employ illiterates my
business will be fine? I can assure you we need graduate level people. Or
is it that you think that the education system can somehow be funded
without any tax revenue? So what higher level of economic thinking do you
subscribe to? Even Gordon Brown would not agree with you,and policies of
the credible Political Parties take account of a need to balance the
books. All understand the need to for business growth to sustain the
current growth in demand for public services.
Educate people to demand less and perhaps that situation might change but
its not looking very likely at the moment.
--
Ian Lynch
www.theINGOTs.org
www.opendocumentfellowship.org
www.schoolforge.org.uk
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